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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 6:21AM #311
LegendaryImmersion
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2012
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 3:12AM, MrIndigo wrote:

Silverblade Paladin is TOTALLY out of place. Sun Titan is not worth running without Phantasmal Image.

Geist of Saint Traft is okay, but it seems strange in the maindeck for a Control deck.


You have 4 Unburial Rites, but only 3 meaningful targets (Sun Titan), and only 3 cards that actually get Sun Titan into the graveyard in the first place because you're not running the full 4 Alchemy and have no Liliana. 




I think that as a 3 drop, the Silverblade Paladin is great for this deck.  Imagine swinging with the Sun Titan , bringing back the Paladin, soulbonding them, now I'm swinging for 12.  Or having the Paladin and Geist of Saint Traft out on the field.  Swing with the Geist, get an angel, bond the angel to the Paladin, swinging for 8 flying.

And the problem with Phantasmal Image is that it can't be soulbonded with the Paladin.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 6:51AM #312
Burning_Forest
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 6:21AM, LegendaryImmersion wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 3:12AM, MrIndigo wrote:

Silverblade Paladin is TOTALLY out of place. Sun Titan is not worth running without Phantasmal Image.

Geist of Saint Traft is okay, but it seems strange in the maindeck for a Control deck.


You have 4 Unburial Rites, but only 3 meaningful targets (Sun Titan), and only 3 cards that actually get Sun Titan into the graveyard in the first place because you're not running the full 4 Alchemy and have no Liliana. 




I think that as a 3 drop, the Silverblade Paladin is great for this deck.  Imagine swinging with the Sun Titan , bringing back the Paladin, soulbonding them, now I'm swinging for 12.  Or having the Paladin and Geist of Saint Traft out on the field.  Swing with the Geist, get an angel, bond the angel to the Paladin, swinging for 8 flying.

And the problem with Phantasmal Image is that it can't be soulbonded with the Paladin.




your post proves that you have no idea what this deck is about

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 7:22AM #313
LegendaryImmersion
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 6:51AM, Burning_Forest wrote:



your post proves that you have no idea what this deck is about




Never claimed I did.  But instead of posting meaningless things, how about contributing something useful?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 8:10AM #314
The_Mirror_Owl
Date Joined: Jul 14, 2010
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Good heavens.

Trying to be restrained as well as succinct, Silverblade Paladin is an aggro card that is designed to get in a lot of damage quickly.  You know aggro, yes?

Well Solar Flare is a control deck.

As you have it, you're slamming a W/x humans aggro deck into a control deck, and the result won't perform either role in the least bit well.

As an aside, yes you can soulbond Image because soulbond doesn't target..

So yeah.  You can't really say the things you said and then snap at people when they're non-plussed.

Jun 19, 2012 -- 8:50PM, catowner wrote:

Welcome to 2012.  Blue has the most efficient creatures, black has the all-in monocolored aggro deck, the most controlling deck in the format is green-red, control decks lose to aggro in attrition wars, and counterspells aren't an answer to fatties.

Sep 22, 2012 -- 5:59PM, Islands wrote:


Pack Rat is like Bitterblossom and Tarmogoyf had a black baby.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 10:02AM #315
LegendaryImmersion
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2012
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:10AM, The_Mirror_Owl wrote:

Good heavens.

Trying to be restrained as well as succinct, Silverblade Paladin is an aggro card that is designed to get in a lot of damage quickly.  You know aggro, yes?

Well Solar Flare is a control deck.

As you have it, you're slamming a W/x humans aggro deck into a control deck, and the result won't perform either role in the least bit well.

As an aside, yes you can soulbond Image because soulbond doesn't target..

So yeah.  You can't really say the things you said and then snap at people when they're non-plussed.




I feel I can fully expect someone to be helpful rather than posting useless things.  I do understand that Solar Flare is control.  But I didn't think pople would be so against it.  I'd thought the Paladin/Titan or Paladin/Giest Angel was a decent combo.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 11:49AM #316
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 10:02AM, LegendaryImmersion wrote:

I feel I can fully expect someone to be helpful rather than posting useless things.  I do understand that Solar Flare is control.  But I didn't think pople would be so against it.  I'd thought the Paladin/Titan or Paladin/Giest Angel was a decent combo.



I wouldn't even say it was useless.  If an experienced guy is expressing that your selections and logic  are nonsensical, it's worth making a note.   Anyway, B_F is the most dedicated control player I know of aside from Pat Chapin, so.

It's not that there's anything inherently bad about Sun Titan/Geist of Saint Traft hooked up to a Paladin.  All three cards are good, and they all see play.  Just in different decks, because they're oriented around fundamentally different playstyles. 

Solar Flare runs Sun Titan because it recurs board-control permanents like Oblivion Ring and Ratchet Bomb while also comboing with Phantasmal Image (which is good anyway) for a ridiculous win condition.  Its gameplan is thus controling the board early and then playing streams of intensely powerful huge dudes to finish, a la Sunny, Elesh Norn et al.

W/x aggro is fundamentally different.  It wants cheap beaters and that's it.  Champion of the Parish, Gather the Townsfolk, Silverblade, etc.  Gameplan is to cast dudes and turn them sideways until the opponent is dead.  It hopes to do all this before reaching a "lategame" state, i.e. before Sun Titan will be relevant.

I hope this Owl Informational Highlight has been a helpful component of your metagame and deck construction comprehension.

Jun 19, 2012 -- 8:50PM, catowner wrote:

Welcome to 2012.  Blue has the most efficient creatures, black has the all-in monocolored aggro deck, the most controlling deck in the format is green-red, control decks lose to aggro in attrition wars, and counterspells aren't an answer to fatties.

Sep 22, 2012 -- 5:59PM, Islands wrote:


Pack Rat is like Bitterblossom and Tarmogoyf had a black baby.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:50PM #317
LegendaryImmersion
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Okay, if not useless, then pointless.  Instead of that post, he could have posted more of an explanation of why instead.  But enough of that.

I've never really been fantastic at deck building.  I'm just using what cards I've got.  I thought this would fit in with the archetype.  I guess I'm just not sure why adding another target for Sun Titan to bring back, one that could be devestating, is a bad thing.  Control decks still need to do damage.  Why not a cheap way to be beefier?  I've kept the heart of the control part in this deck (Snapcasters, the removals).  I'm just adding another way to beat down your opponent.

But thank you for the tips/advice.  I do appreciate it. 
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 9:52PM #318
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in the context of this deck, something like blade slicer is >>> than paladin.  i don't explain myself all the time, but in this instance, the fact is i really shouldn't needed to have.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 7:46AM #319
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 9:52PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

in the context of this deck, something like blade slicer is >>> than paladin.  i don't explain myself all the time, but in this instance, the fact is i really shouldn't needed to have.




As a fairly new player, I like to have things explained to me.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 11:43AM #320
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Blade Splicer provides 2 bodies to block with to buy time till you can Reanimate/Play your big game ending threats. The golem token potentially having First Strike makes it even better at this task.

The fact the golem token is colorless is a boon as well, as it is a decent means of dealing with Pro-white and Pro-black threats (basically SoWaP and SoFaF, but Mirran and Phyrexian Crusaders could be included here as well).

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