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12 months ago ::
Jun 27, 2012 - 3:32AM
#561
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Volt Charge  Is really really good, but don't fall into the logical error of waiting for a proliferate opportunity if you would otherwise play it. Reckless Waif  Is really good, even if he doesn't flip because he is forcing your opponent's hand; and any time you are playing something that forces your oppenents hand like that, there is an opportunity to psyche him out; besides - you can always drop back for a turn and flip him over manually if necessary. They fact that he can swing for 3 is just so powerful sometimes that I am sorry I ever doubted him. With 21 land, you should be statistifcally hitting your 4th land on your 5-6th turn, which means you will have dug though 12-13 of your 60 cards, so if everything goes perfectly 5 2RR casting costs would be the correct amount... however, I find things usually don't go perfectly, and when they don't its usually better to lean towards the cautous side as 2x 1R CC cards are a lot easier to cast than a 2RR, so I would recommend going with 1 or maybe 2 less 4 casting cost creatures. I think that ideally you want to have done 5 points of damage by the 3rd turn, and 10 by the 4th - if you can't do that (unless you've got a shrine on the board) you need to start re-thinking your card choices (namely by adding more 2 drops) - which, as I said may work better with dropping the Hellrider  s and adding some more stuff to cast on your second turn. As for the guy that says the Bloodcrazed Neonate  is over rated, I don't think you see the importance of casting a threat on turn two, or the synergy with the Volt Charge .... While I think most people have died to Shrine of Burning Rage  , Volt Charge is the card that has won me the most games, unquestionably. I have considered running that blue card draw just to get the proliferate. Proliferating is so good with this deck...
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12 months ago ::
Jun 27, 2012 - 12:48PM
#562
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You seem to be confusing "threat" and "creature." Bloodcrazed Neonate attacks each turn if able and gets a +1/+1 counter when she connects with a player. She's terrible for the same reason Markov Blademaster  is terrible; even ignoring the incredible number of things in type 2 that will bin her, by the time she's attacking you're losing the arms race of creatures. Best case scenario, you have enough burn/removal to kill their blocker when on the first turn they're able to attack (3 and 4, respectively), right into the waiting arms of Restoration Angel  and Garfield only knows what else.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 28, 2012 - 1:07AM
#563
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You seem to be confusing "threat" and "creature." Bloodcrazed Neonate attacks each turn if able and gets a +1/+1 counter when she connects with a player. She's terrible for the same reason Markov Blademaster is terrible; even ignoring the incredible number of things in type 2 that will bin her, by the time she's attacking you're losing the arms race of creatures. Best case scenario, you have enough burn/removal to kill their blocker when on the first turn they're able to attack (3 and 4, respectively), right into the waiting arms of Restoration Angel and Garfield only knows what else.
So what creature would you recommend for turn 2?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 28, 2012 - 2:30AM
#564
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Right now, Shrine of Burning Rage and Stormblood Berserker  are our 2-drops. I wouldn't use Neonate without Stromkirk Captain  .
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12 months ago ::
Jun 28, 2012 - 2:49AM
#565
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I run 4 of each, and I don't think that's enough to get pressure on them early.
Personally I find Neonate to work great. He is a presence and while not as theatening as your plan.... Which is to hope that you get a berserker
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11 months ago ::
Jul 06, 2012 - 12:54PM
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I run 4 of each, and I don't think that's enough to get pressure on them early. Personally I find Neonate to work great. He is a presence and while not as theatening as your plan.... Which is to hope that you get a berserker
First off, Bloodcrazed Neonate is a she :p
Secondly, I wouldn't run it if my life depended on it.
As for looking for more 2 drops, the answer here is "MOAR 1 drops!"
Goblin Arsonist  , Goblin Fireslinger  , Spikeshot Elder  , and Grim Lavamancer  are your best options, with Goblin Fireslinger and Grim Lavamancer being the best out of the bunch. Although Spikeshot Elder may be pretty good now as well assuming you can work out a  splash for Rancor  (which isn't totally unlikely, since many RDW lists already splash for Kessig Wolf Run  , flashback on Ancient Grudge  , and/or Naturalize  ).
I am not really a fan of Reckless Waif , it rarely flips early enough to make a difference(usually only against Control) and more often than not the decks it will be flipping early against are the ones with plenty of removal to get rid of it. It is also a terrible top deck late game.
Goblin Fireslinger really is underrated I have found. It activates Bloodthirst for Stormblood Berserker on T2 even if your opponent has a blocker, and also removes some of the strain on Gut Shot  in the context of providing that T2 Bloodthirst. It provides reach in the late game since its damage gets through blockers, and isn't as bad of a top deck late game as many of the other available 1 drops for exactly this reason. There have also been at least a couple of games I won simply by being able to ping myself for 1 to shut off Timely Reinforcements  .
If you are really dead set on more 2 drops, I would say Lightning Mauler  is probably your best bet, free haste is always welcome in a deck like this.
"I have existed from the morning of the world and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man and therefore I am a God."
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11 months ago ::
Jul 06, 2012 - 1:37PM
#567
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I analyzed Reckless Waif and found it flipped 1st turn 30% of the time. That was significant enough for me.
What would you target with the lightning mauler that would make it a good card?
I used to have the exact same thinking as you, and to be honest I don't feel like you are seeing the deck as a complete unit, and are instead valuing cards based on their individual value as opposed to their synergy.
Bloodcrazed Neonate is not a good card at face value, but trust me when I say people (myself excused) have never been happy to see it
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11 months ago ::
Jul 06, 2012 - 9:35PM
#568
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I analyzed Reckless Waif and found it flipped 1st turn 30% of the time. That was significant enough for me. What would you target with the lightning mauler that would make it a good card? I used to have the exact same thinking as you, and to be honest I don't feel like you are seeing the deck as a complete unit, and are instead valuing cards based on their individual value as opposed to their synergy. Bloodcrazed Neonate is not a good card at face value, but trust me when I say people (myself excused) have never been happy to see it
Still don't think Reckless Waif is worth it. If anything I would use it as a SB option against control decks, even then its not great.
The "has to attack" clause on Bloodcrazed Neonate just kills it for me. I don't like throwing my creatures into Doomed Traveler  and his ilk if I don't have to. I guess it does have synergy with Volt Charge though.
As for when you could use haste.
T2 bonding with your T1 play to give it haste and attack in for 3 on T2. Not as good as dropping a Shrine of Burning Rage or a Bloodthirsted Stormblood Berserker on T2, but still decent if you don't have either of those in your hand at the time.
Bonding it with a Stormblood Berserker isn't bad, 3/3 Haste with evasion on T3 still is alright, especially when it is swinging in with Lightning Mauler and possibly your T1 play (if you manage to have a Gut Shot in hand). Even later on in the game, a surprise Stormblood Berserker is nothing to scoff at.
I could also see situations where dropping a Goblin Fireslinger , Spikeshot Elder , or Grim Lavamancer in with haste could be nice, to instantly ping an opponent to win a game in the absence of burn in hand.
Plus you know, 2 damage out of nowhere can be pretty significant in this type of deck.
"I have existed from the morning of the world and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man and therefore I am a God."
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11 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 12:01PM
#569
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11 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:08PM
#570
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Looks alright to me, the only thing I really see that is an issue is Vexing Devil  . He just isn't very good. I would suggest replacing them with the last two Grim Lavamancer you left out. Other than that, the only thing that is really iffy is Chandra's Phoenix  . It is definitely a good card, and works well enough most of the time. Currently though it is not as good as it could be/used to be, simply because the format has so many fliers in it ( Lingering Souls  and Delver of Secrets  mainly), which means it gets blocked more often than it probably otherwise would. Still a good card though. I would personally drop all 4 of the Phoenix for a couple of 4 drops. Hellrider is probably your best bet, but Koth of the Hammer  is decent as well. I personally run a 50/50 split with 2 of each.
"I have existed from the morning of the world and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man and therefore I am a God."
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