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12 months ago ::
Jun 09, 2012 - 7:36AM
#521
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What did you lose to? Are the Inkmoth's really appropriate in a deck like this? Have you tried running arc trail? I would really would like to hear how this version of the deck ran.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 09, 2012 - 8:47AM
#522
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Date Joined:
Apr 20, 2012
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What did you lose to? Are the Inkmoth's really appropriate in a deck like this? Have you tried running arc trail? I would really would like to hear how this version of the deck ran.
My only loss last night was to U/G infect deck. I went three games with him, and he won the last game because he siodeboarded in Wild Defiance , making my burn spells useless against his little infecters. He was also using Mutagenic Growth which doesn't help when he is piling infect tokens up on me. The last game I was at three poison tokens, and in fell swoop he dinged me for 11 poison counters with two mutagenic growth's and then the resulting +6/+6 from the wild defiance, all piled on an inkmoth nexus. My other three matches were (I won in two in each matchup).... 1) R/U/B infect deck with Phyrexian Crusader . Each time a shrine took care of the phyrexian crusader that hit the table and I just plowed on through with my creatures and finished him off with some burn. 2) Boros Humans, and I made very quick work of him. I had an answer for everything he had hitting the table. 3) W/G Tokens Township with Wolfir Silver Heart . Again, I had answers for everything. Even when he tried to attack my Koth, I had a fireslinger to block with, so I was able to ultimate Koth the next turn. After that, it was just a matter of picking off him and everything he brought out with my mountains. The store I normally play at there is a lot of control and delver going on, and the Inkmoth's help out in those matches. I find the inmoth's make good chump blockers against a delver or angel with a pike that is gonna swing for like 11 or 12 damage in one hit. I won a game last night with an inkmoth. I just kept swinging with the inkmoth and was able to proliferate twice using volt charges to take out a couple creatures. Before I write a novel here (I have been playing this deck for a month so I am really starting to understand it), I want to say why I left out arc trails and Grim LAvamancer . I had arc trails in before AVR came out. But Pillar of Flame is too good of a card to not use. Geralf's messenger and Strangleroot giests are nuetered by it. If a wurm coil is pillar of flamed after you managed to do 4 other points of damage to it, it doesn't come back as two 3/3 creatures because it is exiled. And up agasinst another chandra's pheonix, well, it is exiled so no using a burn to bring back a chandra's pheonix to your hand. And the lack of grim lavamancer, well, I had two in here with three goblin fireslingers, and I find the fireslingers do more damage for the one R casting cost than grim lavamancers do. Most people scoff at the fireslinger when they see him come out, but when he does 4 or 5 damage straight to your opponents life and guarantees a 3/3 stormblood berzerker everytime, he ended up bumping the lavamancers all together. And one last thing... When I am sidboarding the first two cards to come out are the dangerous wagers and then a Pillar of flame, and then a fireslinger. It has been very rare that I need to side in more than 4 or 5 cards. I hope that helped out, the deck as it sits now is from me talking to everyone who beat me after our tournie matchups and getting them to critique my deck. Plus one of our guys is awesome at making rogue decks, and he helped me on wednesday to get it to this current list. Although he tried to talk the inkmoths out of the deck as well. I took them out, but then right before FNM I put them back him. It's hard to part with them from the deck when they have won me games, know what I mean?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 09, 2012 - 9:08AM
#523
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Date Joined:
Jun 27, 2004
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12 months ago ::
Jun 10, 2012 - 4:12AM
#524
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Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2003
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Don't run Vexing Devil. Sword of Body and Mind is just bad, but I don't think you want the Swords at all because they're a little bit slow.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 10, 2012 - 4:07PM
#525
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Date Joined:
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Don't run Vexing Devil. Sword of Body and Mind is just bad, but I don't think you want the Swords at all because they're a little bit slow.
I second this. Also i would up to 4 shrines and up to 2-3 Hellriders. If undealt with Hellrider is just scary.
100th post on 5/29/12 500th post on 8/20/12
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12 months ago ::
Jun 10, 2012 - 7:43PM
#526
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Date Joined:
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Wild Defiance is cute, but you've already kept his board clear and/or have spare mana on t3, just clear his board in response to him casting it and start turning your burn on him instead. WD may cost 3, but that's still... plenty of time for you to have been clearing his creatures out Don't run Vexing Devil. Sword of Body and Mind is just bad, but I don't think you want the Swords at all because they're a little bit slow.
Vex is bad and swords themselves, even other that don't suck, don't let you win as a topdeck, can't win on their own and thusly don't merit a slot.
Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their **** .
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12 months ago ::
Jun 11, 2012 - 10:28PM
#527
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I have read that this deck has placed a lot but has it actually won at all? What is the hardest deck for it to overcome?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 12, 2012 - 3:15AM
#528
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Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2003
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I have read that this deck has placed a lot but has it actually won at all? What is the hardest deck for it to overcome?
It hasn't placed well in a long time.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 12, 2012 - 5:27AM
#529
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I have read that this deck has placed a lot but has it actually won at all? What is the hardest deck for it to overcome?
It does alright at FNMs where you come up against newbies and pros who are only there to test out their new brews, but that's about it. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I saw RDW at the top tables. Which is really unfortunate, because it's so much fun to play.
Next thing you will tell me Browbeat is bad.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 12, 2012 - 11:18PM
#530
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Date Joined:
Apr 19, 2012
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Yeah, its just really not that good right now. I hope we get some more good cards in M13
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