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2 years ago ::
Oct 16, 2011 - 12:28PM
#21
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just built a list from the GP and i'm very impressed with UB control. i think it has the tools to beat a lot of stuff. it actually feels much better than UW... something i realized just before i started playing states yesterday (ended up 5-2-1).
despise is a card i think has a lot of strength to it, which it was long overdue for. we all know how lame it was last standard.
play a more instant based list than tap out feels far better too.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 16, 2011 - 9:45PM
#22
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Date Joined:
May 11, 2011
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1 x Consecrated Sphinx 1 x Grave Titan 1 x Wurmcoil Engine 1 x Sheoldred, Whispering One 4 x Snapcaster Mage 4 x Dissipate 4 x Mana Leak 4 x Doom Blade 4 x Go for the Throat 4 x Think Twice 4 x Divination 3 x Black Sun's Zenith 10 x Island 7 x Swamp 4 x Darkslick Shores 4 x Drowned Catacomb alright well this is the deck i've been testing lately and while its doing okay it isnt doing as good as I was hoping so I was wondering what your ideas are to improve it. Should I run less four ofs so I have more diverse answers or do I have too many bombs or ya idk but thoughts?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 16, 2011 - 9:59PM
#23
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2009
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Getting some info out of MTGSalvation we are seeing UB make some decent showings. I've compiled the reports they are showing thus far. I'll look further in getting some of the high ranking deck lists. States reported so far Spoiler:
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Alaska: Wolf-Run U/B U/W Tokens Alabama: 1st: Infect 5 wolf run, solar flare uw Arkansas: 2 Wolf Run Ramp (winner) 1 Bant Pod 1 Tempered Steel 1 Mono Red 1 Solar Flare 1 RUG Arizona: 1st: UB 2nd: RDW Wolf Run Ramp Solar Flare Solar Flare Wolf Run Mono-Black Infect California: 1st: Wolf Run Colorado: 3x Tempered Steel Tezz control 2x Wolf run GW tokens Esper control Connecticut: Delaware: 3 Wolf Run Florida: 1st: Wolf's Run Mono black infect solar flare red wolf ramp Georgia: 1st: Wolf Run Ramp 2nd: Wolf Run Ramp 4th: Wolf Run Ramp 2x Solar Flare 1x Mono Red 1x Mono Black Infect 1x UW Control Hawaii: 1st mono b infect 2nd gw tokens 4th solar flare 4th UW aggro with Angelic 8th Wolfrun red 8th solar flare 8th ?? 8th mono red Idaho: 1st UB Control 2nd Bant Pod 3rd UW Aggro 4th Wolf Run Ramp Illinois: 1: UB 2: Wolf Run 3: Wolf Run splashing Snapcaster 4: Wu Tempered Steel 5: Wu Humans 6: Wu Humans 7: Wolf Run 8: Bant Pod Indiana: 1st: Geistblade 2nd: U/W Aggro 4th: U/W Aggro 4th: Wolf Run 8th: Hawkward 8th: Mage-Blade 8th: Vampires 8th: G/W Tokens Iowa: Kansas: 1st: Wolf-Run Ramp 2nd: Tia-go -- UWb No Tap-Out Control 3rd: Dungrove Kessig Ramp 4th: Naya Pod 5th-8th Mono-Red Wolf-Run Ramp Tezzeret Wolf Run Kentucky: Louisiana: 1st: Wolf Run Ramp 2nd: Wolf Run Ramp 3rd: U/B 4th: Wolf's Run Runchanter's Pike Combo Tempered Steel Maine: 1st: Moorland WW 2nd: UW Aggro 3rd: U/B We all got Bruises 4th: Solar Flare 5th: Apple Pie (B/U/G) 6th: Solar Flare 7th: Bant Pod 8th: Solar Flare Maryland: 1: Mono-B Infect 2: Wolf Run Ramp 3-4: W/r Tempered Steel 3-4: Wolf Run Ramp 5-8: RDW 5-8: Wolf Run Ramp 5-8: Wolf Run Ramp 5-8: ??? Massachusettes: 4x wolf runs, 2x UW RUB contrl UB Michigan: Minnesota: Mississippi: 1) W/u Puresteel Paladin 2) Wolfrun Ramp 3) U/W Blade 4) Wolfrun Ramp 5) Wolfrun Ramp U/W Blad Bant Pod ?? Missouri: 1. Township Tokens 2. Wolf-Run Ramp 3. RUG Montana: North Carolina: North Dakota: 1st: Wolf Run Ramp 2nd Solar Flare Solar Flare Bant Geist RUG Solar Flare Nebraska: Nevada: Wolf's Run New Hampshire: New Jersey: 1st: Wolf's Run 2nd: Wolf's Run New Mexico: 1)RDW 2)G/W Humans 3)Tempered Steel 4)BG Pod 5)RDW 6)G/W/U Tokens Control 7)?? Solar flare?? 8)BUG Pod New York: GW Tokens (winner) GR Wolf Run WWu Humans GWr Wolf Run 2 Solar Flare UW Blade Mono Black Infect Ohio: ## RDW ## Wolf's Run Ramp Oklahoma: 1x Solar Flare 3x Kessig Wolf Run 1x Mono-Red (Splashed green for kessig but was mono besides that) 1x U/W Control/Blade 1x U/R Control Oregon: Pennsylvania: 1st: W/U Destiny 2nd: 4 Color Birthing Pod Wolf Run Ramp Wolf Run Ramp Solar Flare 4 Color Birthing Pod RDW spash green for kessig wolf run Grixis Control Rhode Island: 1) blue green snapcaster/control 2) red deck wins 3) u/b control 4) u/b control 5) wolf run 6) wolf run 7) solar flare 8) 4-color snapcaster control South Carolina: South Dakota: 1: Geist blade 2: mono red 3: solar flare 4: mono red Tenessee: Texas: 1st: Wolf's Run 2nd: Wolf's Run Utah: Vermont: 1. Solar Flare 2. Wolf Run Ramp 3. U/W Blade 4. Wolf Run Ramp 5. RDW 6. U/W Illusions/Architect 7. Solar Flare 8. G/W Humans/Tokens Virginia: 1 Township Tokens 2 Tezzeret Control 3 Township Tokens 4 Solar Flar 5 Bant Birthing Pod 6 Wolf Run Ramp 7 Red Deck Wins 8 Wolf Run Ramp Washington: 1st: U/W Tokens 2nd: Wolf Run Ramp 4th: U/W Control 4th: G/W Tokens 8th: Solar Flare 8th: Wolf Run 8th: Wolf Run 8th: Solar Flare West Virginia: 1 G/W Tokens 2 Mono Red 3 Wolf Run Ramp 4 Bant Birthing Pod 5 Wolf Run Ramp 6 Wolf Run Ramp 7 Solar Flare 8 G/W Tokens Wisconsin: 1st: Wolf Run 2nd: Wolf Run 4th: W/U Geist-Blade 4th: W/U Geist Aggro 8th: Wolf Run 8th: Wolf Run 8th: Mono-W token 8th: W/U/B control deck Wyoming: CANADA Alberta: 1st: U/B Control 2nd: U/R/b/g burning vengeance 4 wolf run solar flare u/b control U/W either aggro or control, British Columbia: Manitoba: 1. U/B control 2. Wolf Run 3. Wolf Run 4. Mono red 5. Wolf Run 6. Wolf Run 7. Wolf Run 8. Solar flare New Brunswick: Newfoundland: 1st. RUG Midrange 2nd. RDW 3rd. RUG Control 4th. Solar Flare 5th. RG Ramp 6th. Solar Flare 7th. Solar Flare 8th. Solar Flare Ontario: Prince Edward Island: 1st: Solar Flare 2nd: UW Infect Wolf Run Heartless Grand Architect Geist deck UB Control infect Quebec: 1st: Tempered Steel 2nd: Solar Flare 3rd: RUG Pod 4th: RDW 5th: UW Golems/Shape Anew 6th: Solar Flare 7th: Solar Flare 8th: RDW
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 5:37PM
#24
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UB top 4'ed in MN too
just was grinding out some practice on modo.... roflstomped GR kessig ramp. this deck is siiiiick. i love how its just all instant speed.
crazy as this sounds, i think i want to run a disperse or 2, somehow, somewhere. geth's verdict seems increasingly important as more decks play hexproof stuff.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 5:51PM
#25
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Date Joined:
Jan 27, 2008
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tribute to hunger > geth's verdict
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 7:31PM
#26
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Blue is the best color ever. How do you deal? Team GFG - "gulf, foxtrot, gulf" Twitter: Burning_Forest ------------------------------------------------------ I started making some Dubstep and Electronica. Check me out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLxlHeE1rg My Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/whitefender69?feature=mhee It is a little bit chill. Let me know what you think.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 11:28PM
#27
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Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2003
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I would go -1 Doom Blade, +1 Wring Flesh in your list, and replace the SB Negate and Wring Flesh with 2 more Nephalia Drownyard - you really really want all 4 in Control mirrors. Batterskull is better than Wurmcoil Engine in your list, given you don't have your own Phantasmal Images. Is there a particular reason people don't like Victim of Night? I would run 2 of them at least before my first Doom Blade. Geth's Verdict v Tribute to Hunger; the latter is much better in Solar Flare, no contest. In this deck,   isn't that hard so I could go either way with it.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 12:50AM
#28
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Date Joined:
Jan 27, 2008
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I strongly feel the 1 life is irrelevant on geths verdict, and the lifegain from tribute can change a game completely (or just keep you in one).
victim of night isn't terrible, but against rdw you can't kill a noble (or waif if it comes to that) and the only thing that is being played currently that doom blade doesn't kill is the occasional grave titan in the mirror. if the infect decks become a more common threat, then victim of night might share time with go for the throat, but doom blade hasn't been better positioned before now.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 3:06AM
#29
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Date Joined:
Aug 30, 2007
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Tribute is much better than verdict. Also, it's so easy to play red, which gives you stensia bloodhall as a draw go win conditions, and Gesitflame. If you're playing wring flesh, think about how much better gesitflame is? A lot better. The manabase easily takes another colour on board, over here in the UK it's what we have the best testing results with, since the draw-go shell takes on the midrange decks like flare and WRR, whilst the things like gesitflame make the RDW match up a lot better. We haven't settled on the perfect build yet, but it's getting there and I genuinely suggets trying out the Grixis build.
In terms of the drownyward for the control mirror, you also need the Extractions if you plan on using that method, since you disable key spells and remove lots of dead MD cards anyway. The Bloodhall plan works in a similar way, but is faster since it lets your snapcaster clock become relevant, and you randomly don't mill them into useful spells.
The loss of Quarter in the grixis build is not much of an issue since you have the gesitflames to kill nexi, which is fine. The only land you want to kill is an opposing bloodhall or a township.The tokens match up is hard because every card they draw becomes a serious threat, and they produce multiple creatures at a time. Slagstorm and BSZ are trying to work around the problems, but running Gravy Train as a proactive win con oncethe board is somewhat stabilized seems to be helping a bit.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 4:42PM
#30
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2009
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Here is the TCGPlayer report of states decks as they come in. magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_search_resul...
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