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quick question; is Grimgrin any good for commander, cause im looking to build a commander deck for the first time and considering i started playing when New Phyrexia came out, i dont have any older cards. i have Sheoldred,Whispering One and vorniclex but idk if those are any good for commander. i also have  tezz, agent of bolas( felt grimgrin and him would pair nice considering...)

ideas?

Personally, I'm always nervous with Thraximundar. Someone in my group already plays it, and they are consistently hated out first.

Grimgrin... it's an interesting card. I just pulled one myself and have been trying to work out an EDH decklist. Unlike other commanders you might use, it will require some building around. You'll want to produce a lot of tokens ( Oona, Queen of the Fae , Army of the Damned , Endless ranks of the dead if you're running a lot of zombies) so that you can sacrifice these tokens to Grimgrin in order to strengthen him. Additionally, when you sacrifice creatures and you have Grave Pact in play... it gets funny really fast. Most of these cards have been printed or reprinted fairly recently, and should be easy enough to find.

Another thing if you're playing a fair number of zombies, you can make infinite combos with Rooftop Storm , Cloudstone Curio , and any two zombie creatures, as long as one has an effect when it enters the battlefield.

These are a couple of the biggest things I've found while looking around for my own Grimgrin deck. I'd recomend searching google and other magic forums for decklists to get some inspiration (here's a thread on this forum discussion it community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...). Grimgrin may not be the best commander out there, but he can be pretty good when built around, and has a lot of potential to be a fun deck.

Also, since a lot of creatures will be hitting your graveyard, running Sheoldred is a good idea.

I opened one and played him at the prerelease, and was very tempted to build a BU Zombie themed deck around him. Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir could even double the fun of sacing dudes to untap him. I also like the fact that you could pump him up to be huge if you have enough creatures, or use his untap ability at instant speed. It could be really tricky for other people to play around if piloted by a good player.

Oct 11, 2011 -- 4:03PM, barmithious wrote:

kk, ty--- i dont think i could get thrax at the moment, so im gona start to build with grimgrin. any more suggestions are very much appreciated.

I still think Grimgrin is better than Thrax, but it's cool.

I'd stack the deck with the normal EDH necessities of ramp, card draw, tutors, removal etc.  But I'd add some token generators, other stuff to untap Grimgrin should the fodder not be available (see my previous post) and creatures like Solemn Simulacrum , who do useful things when they die.

Happy building!  You should post the decklist when you put it together.