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2 years ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 4:41PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 10:06PM
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Aug 22, 2011
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im saddened that champion of the parish  doesnt get buffed by tokens from either hero of bladehold  or elspeth tirel  because using those with Parallel Lives  would be a really wicked ender.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 10:11PM
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Oct 10, 2008
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Phyrexian crusader  is looking good in this format.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 4:31AM
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Jun 16, 2010
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In all those decks, I only see one that doesn't play at least four artifacts and/or enchantments in the main deck. If my next Standard deck is green, I'm pretty sure I'll play Naturalize  in the main. Same for some kind of discard effect if I'm playing black. Gotta keep that Geist on the ground... I'm a bit disappointed that we don't see more Innistrad cards here. Or more suprises in the Innistrad cards people are playing; everything in there was pretty well predicted. I was looking for deck ideas, myself. But it hasn't even been legal for a week yet, so I guess it's still pretty early.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 7:05AM
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Seems to be a consensus on what the best cards will be, even if the way they were arranged into decks differ. Nary a green deck to be seen. Tons of Gideon Jura  , Timely Reinforcements  , Day of Judgment  , Dismember  , and Hero of Bladehold  . Seems like you are either running red or running white with Timely Reinforcements to counteract red. As noted by another poster, Phyrexian Crusader  is going to be pretty sick in this meta due to having protection from both red and white. I'm thinking a UB Infect/Control deck similar to Patrick Chapin's, except mine would be more aggressive, with more infect. Phyrexian Crusader , the blight dragon, Inkmoth Nexus  with swords. The rest Tezz and artifacts. Control the game and win through either Phyrexian Crusader with a Sword, an big infect dragon, or a big Inkmoth Nexus enhanced by Tezz. Either way, you're looking at a big 4 or 5 power infector with evasion. I thought I would be excited for the SolarFlare style decks because Unburial Rites  is such a powerful card imo. But at least for me they fell flat. They are going to spend a good deal of resources just to get back a Sun Titan  on turn 5 or so. Idk how good that's going to be because that's relatively easy to deal with. I'm much more excited about the new Blade decks. Most of the best cards seem to be in UW, which is my favorite color combination. Geist of Saint Traft  is pretty insane with Swords. Think Troll Ascetic  that also puts a 4/4 angel into play when attacking. That's two really powerful abilities at 3 mana. I'm a little surprised that the Blade decks didn't include Mirran Crusader  and that's the first thing I'd change. I'm also surprised at the absence of Sword of war and peace  in this format. It's so incredibly good equipped to a Mirran Crusader and it's protection is more relevant in this format. So I'd change that too, using multiple copies either main or side. But the concept of that deck seems more powerful to me than SolarFlare. A Mirran Crusader or Geist with the correct sword is going to be a lot more powerful than a Sun Titan and is coming down earlier too.
So I'm thinking about either a UB Infect Control deck or a Blade deck based around Mirran Crusader, Giest, and swords.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 9:29AM
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Oct 11, 2007
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blah blah metal lyrics
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 10:16AM
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******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** From Mark Rosewater's Tumblr: the0uroboros asked: How in the same set can we have a hexproof, unsacrificable(not a word) creature AND a land that makes it uncounterable. How does this lead to interactive play? I believe I’m able to play my creature and you have to deal with it is much more interactive than you counter my creature. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** Post #777
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 11:26AM
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I thought I would be excited for the SolarFlare style decks because Unburial Rites is such a powerful card imo. But at least for me they fell flat. They are going to spend a good deal of resources just to get back a Sun Titan on turn 5 or so. Idk how good that's going to be because that's relatively easy to deal with.
I haven't fully tested it, but the power is the recursion the Titan allows. The deck isn't so much trying to dump and reanimate as to pile up masses of CA by rebuying things. Titan by itself isn't the threat. It's Titan bringing back Liliana, kill your guy. Then bringing her back again if she ever dies again somehow. Or since they don't want you bringing her back full strength, they let her live, she dumps something else Sun Titan can return, say Snapcaster, then Snapcaster for the removal spell to kill whatever you would've Lili'd.
If Titan dies, that's what the reanimation spells are for. When I've played a very similar deck, often I've hardcast him the first time and then reanimated him multiple times.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 12:06PM
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Jun 14, 2006
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I thought I would be excited for the SolarFlare style decks because Unburial Rites is such a powerful card imo. But at least for me they fell flat. They are going to spend a good deal of resources just to get back a Sun Titan on turn 5 or so. Idk how good that's going to be because that's relatively easy to deal with.
I haven't fully tested it, but the power is the recursion the Titan allows. The deck isn't so much trying to dump and reanimate as to pile up masses of CA by rebuying things. Titan by itself isn't the threat. It's Titan bringing back Liliana, kill your guy. Then bringing her back again if she ever dies again somehow. Or since they don't want you bringing her back full strength, they let her live, she dumps something else Sun Titan can return, say Snapcaster, then Snapcaster for the removal spell to kill whatever you would've Lili'd.
If Titan dies, that's what the reanimation spells are for. When I've played a very similar deck, often I've hardcast him the first time and then reanimated him multiple times.
Pretty good engine. If you're control yourself and planning to play the long game, ways to efficiently fight it that are Dissipate  and good graveyard hate. Without any exiling, kind of a tall order. Myself, I like Surgical Extraction  on the Titan. The deck already plays some for the mirror.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 12:43PM
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Date Joined:
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im saddened that champion of the parish doesnt get buffed by tokens from either hero of bladehold or elspeth tirel because using those with Parallel Lives would be a really wicked ender.
Sadly, it's the relatively un-Tribal-friendly tendency to only mark some tribes (Spirit, Zombie) and some classes (Soldier) for token creation that makes this difficult. It's asking you to cast actual cards, or make tokens in some other fashion which also happen to be Human (and which don't involve non-aggro/control Rite of Replication  ). Otherwise, any token that is Human works ... just not the most popularly useable ones like Reinforcements, Hero, and Elspeth ... and that's fine. Only Hero is aggressively aggro for said deck, the others are far more defensive.
Control the game and win through either Phyrexian Crusader with a Sword, an big infect dragon, or a big Inkmoth Nexus enhanced by Tezz. Either way, you're looking at a big 4 or 5 power infector with evasion.
Ordinarily, this is a good move ... once. Tezzeret will transform an animated Nexus, making it a 5/5 flying artifact creature with infect. Permanents that gain types overwrite previous types, which is why lands that become creatures have text to indicate they are still lands (this is not reminder text); this means Nexus is no longer a land, although it retains the mana ability. Moreover, it retains the text that says becomes a 1/1 flying artifact creature that is still a land; because its no longer a land anymore, this last bit won't be relevant, but the first part is:
If you animate a Nexus, then use Tezz's ability, it becomes a 5/5 flying artifact creature with infect, loses its land type, and retains all other abilities.
Next turn, if you attempt to use Nexus' second ability to "jump", you will have a 1/1 flying artifact creature with infect, and must use Tezz's ability again. This shouldn't be a problem, unless your opponent is throwing out chump blockers, but it could be very relevant in some scenarios.
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