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Switch to Forum Live View 09/22/2011 TD: "One of Each, and Some Springboards"
2 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2011 - 6:10PM #1
Garmichael
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2011 - 9:53PM #2
pedrodyl
Date Joined: Jul 22, 2011
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Gotta love those snowcovered island spells.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 2:04AM #3
hamazing
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2006
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These decks all seem terrible.

Smallpox and six drops?


How do you win with the Snapcaster deck? A single Wurmcoil and a set of bears? I wouldn't count on the Drownyard since I'd figure people to be heavy on Ghost Quarters.


And what is Primeval Titan doing in that green/white/black deck? I can't see how Grave Titan wouldn't be the best finisher, or Sun Titan with Liliana?

Also I don't think anyone will be playing black for Inquisition in any deck.

And again Primeval Titan in the last deck? Why? So you can get ALL FOUR OF THE MOUNTAINS IN YOUR ENTIRE DECK for your Koth? Are you sure you don't want Dungrove Elder as well?
A whole playset of Green Sun's? For five cards out of your deck? Not even a Thrun or something?

Way to phone it in...



Yes I mad.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 4:11AM #4
GreenBuster
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Is that Oath deck simply supposed to win on the back of a singleton Archangel?  Also, what is the "Unknown Card" in the Oath deck?
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 5:05AM #5
scrappykid
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Sep 22, 2011 -- 4:11AM, GreenBuster wrote:

Is that Oath deck simply supposed to win on the back of a singleton Archangel?  Also, what is the "Unknown Card" in the Oath deck?




The Oath decklist has been mis-typed.

The four 'unknown cards' shouldn't exist, and there should be two Archangels. Then the deck is 60 cards (26 + 2 + 32).

Source:  magic.tcgplayer.com/db/print.asp?ID=2536

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 7:07AM #6
DedlyEdly70
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While we're on the subject of questionable card choices, why run Stoic Rebuttal in a deck with just one artifact when Dissipate is available?  Particularly important in an environment with Flashback and other assorted ways to use the graveyard as a resource.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 7:33AM #7
ZursApprentice
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The problem is that all of those decks and indeed most of the best decks are based on uber-powerful interactions between specific cards.  Without those specific cards, the deck fails.  Trying to redo the deck with close approximations that are weaker than the original, in a different format, will fail.  I think all of the decks you posted will fail.  The only one that I actually like is the SolarFlare deck.  But the key engine in that deck wasn't Smallpox but rather Haakon/Court Hussar as a draw engine and then recursion.  Smallpox was merely a discard outlet that you could use for value.  We don't have as many ways to abuse Smallpox in this meta, but we do have other, arguably better discard engines.  We don't have Haakon/Court Hussar, but we do have a better reanimator in Unburial Rites .  I immediately thought of reanimator when I saw that card and I'd start there. 

I think a core of Forbidden Alchemy , Visions of Beyond , Liliana of the Veil , Unburial Rites , and Divine Reckoning  would work as a great starting place.  From there, I like more reanimation and more ways to abuse the graveyard for value.  Vengeful Pharaoh seems made for a deck like this.  Meanwhile, there are better things to recur than Grave Titan, to the tune of Jin-Gitaxias, Core-Augur .  If you are going to put so much work into reanimating something, you may as well win for sure when it sticks.  I'd also include more flashback cards to control the game.  I like the idea, I just think it could be improved here or there.          
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 8:18AM #8
EggShen
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Artisan rotates out in a couple weeks. Probably not the best choice.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 8:44AM #9
ZursApprentice
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Sep 22, 2011 -- 8:18AM, EggShen wrote:

Artisan rotates out in a couple weeks. Probably not the best choice.




You're right.  Brain Fart.  I edited my post...this is what happens when I comment on standard lol

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 12:20PM #10
qki
Date Joined: Feb 5, 2006
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If you are dead set on recurring a fattie via unburial rites, i'd go the route of zombie infestation (and makes a token along the way). Sadly, with no turn one mana acceleration, jin in the third won't happen, but at least that gives us time to dig deeper with alchemy.
I'd also include extra flashback spells (either discarded to infestation or hardcast twice) - feeling of dread seems like a good way to stave off the attack for a couple of turns.
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