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2 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2011 - 6:56PM #1
ReleaseTheAnts
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I'm sick as hell right now, so I'm going to be a little more brief than usual. Firstly, I am super sorry this took as long as it did.

Refresher: This round was a double format Artist Draft, players had to pick 5 artists from Magic history, and then use cards from those artists alone to build Standard and Legacy legal decks. Decks would be judged out of 10 point, and compete in match play.

Match play (best 3 out of 5)
5 points for a win -1 for every game lost
0 points for a loss +1 for every game won

Each format would be given seperate league points, which would be added to the total points for the season

5 points for first
3 points for second
1 point for third

Heading into the first round, the standings looked like this.

13 Niche
10 FIRE_REIGN_2_02
9 Gomorrah

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I did not discuss the scores with the judge, nor did they include comment

Niche- Mono Black Control (7/10)

// Lands
    23 [M12] Swamp (1)

// Creatures
    4 [NPH] Spellskite
    4 [ZEN] Gatekeeper of Malakir
    4 [CMD] Vampire Nighthawk
    2 [SOM] Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

// Spells
    4 [NPH] Despise
    4 [M12] Doom Blade
    3 [NPH] Dismember
    1 [NPH] Batterskull
    1 [NPH] Caress of Phyrexia
    4 [NPH] Tezzeret's Gambit
    4 [NPH] Pristine Talisman
    2 [M11] Liliana Vess

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [NPH] Dismember
SB: 1 [NPH] Caress of Phyrexia
SB: 1 [M11] Liliana Vess
SB: 3 [ROE] Consume the Meek
SB: 4 [M12] Royal Assassin
SB: 4 [WWK] Smother
SB: 1 [SOM] Argentum Armor

FIRE_REIGN_2_02- UR Bombs (8/10)

// Lands
    17 [SHM] Mountain (4)
    8 [ALA] Island (3)

// Creatures
    4 [M11] Cyclops Gladiator
    2 [SOM] Wurmcoil Engine
    2 [M12] Inferno Titan
    4 [M11] Ember Hauler
    2 [MR] Iron Myr
    4 [SOM] Silver Myr

// Spells
    4 [M11] Lightning Bolt
    4 [ROE] Staggershock
    2 [M12] Incinerate
    3 [M11] Chandra Nalaar
    4 [M10] Jace Beleren

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SOM] Wurmcoil Engine
SB: 1 [M12] Inferno Titan
SB: 2 [M12] Incinerate
SB: 3 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
SB: 3 [SOM] Cerebral Eruption
SB: 3 [M12] Manic Vandal
SB: 2 [MR] Iron Myr

Gomorrah- UR Control (8/10)

// Lands
    16 [M10] Mountain (4)
    12 [ZEN] Island (3)

// Creatures
    4 [M12] Grim Lavamancer
    3 [SOM] Wall of Tanglecord

// Spells
    4 [b] Lightning Bolt
    4 [8E] Mana Leak
    4 [SOM] Koth of the Hammer
    4 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
    4 [MPR] Burst Lightning
    2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
    3 [WWK] Dispel

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [ROE] Kargan Dragonlord
SB: 1 [SOM] Wall of Tanglecord
SB: 2 [NPH] Karn Liberated
SB: 3 [MBS] Corrupted Conscience
SB: 4 [A] Manabarbs
SB: 1 [WWK] Dispel



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Niche- (6/10)
// Lands
    22 [M12] Plains (1)

// Creatures
    4 [MBS] Mirran Crusader
    4 [NPH] Spellskite
    4 [DDG] Knight of the White Orchid
    2 [CMD] Triskelavus

// Spells
    3 [DDC] Faith's Fetters
    4 [PS] Orim's Chant
    3 [NPH] Tezzeret's Gambit
    4 [DDF] Swords to Plowshares
    3 [V10] Isochron Scepter
    2 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
    3 [UL] Grim Monolith
    2 [NPH] Batterskull

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
SB: 4 [V10] AEther Vial
SB: 2 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
SB: 3 [ALA] Scourglass
SB: 2 [MBS] Divine Offering

FIRE_REIGN_2_02-

// Lands
    2 [10E] Treetop Village
    4 [R] Savannah
    1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
    4 [ON] Wooded Foothills
    4 [u] Taiga
    4 [ZEN] Arid Mesa

// Creatures
    4 [ROE] Vengevine
    4 [M11] Fauna Shaman
    4 [M11] Squadron Hawk
    1 [NPH] Hex Parasite
    3 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    4 [RAV] Watchwolf
    4 [TE] Jackal Pup
    3 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda

// Spells
    3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
    3 [PS] Eladamri's Call
    4 [M11] Lightning Bolt
    4 [RAV] Lightning Helix

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
SB: 3 [TSP] Greater Gargadon
SB: 3 [ST] Armageddon
SB: 4 [6E] Tariff
SB: 1 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
SB: 3 [DS] Viridian Zealot

Gomorrah-

// Lands
    4 [FUT] Nimbus Maze
    8 [RAV] Plains (2)
    15 [ZEN] Island (3)

// Creatures
    4 [MOR] Vendilion Clique

// Spells
    4 [WWK] Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    4 [4E] Counterspell
    4 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
    4 [V09] Sensei's Divining Top
    4 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
    4 [IA] Brainstorm
    1 [WWK] Dispel
    2 [LG] Moat
    2 [FUT] Pact of Negation

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [RAV] Compulsive Research
SB: 4 [FD] Auriok Champion
SB: 2 [CH] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [WWK] Dispel
SB: 1 [LG] Moat
SB: 2 [FUT] Pact of Negation



Standard Match Play:

Niche 5, Gomorrah 0 (Niche wins 3-0)
Fire 4, Gomorrah 1 (Fire wins 3-1)
Niche 4, Fire 1 (Niche wins 3-1)

Final score (Standard Section)

16 Niche
13 FIRE_REIGN_2_02
9 Gomorrah

League standings (post Standard)

18 Niche
13 FIRE_REIGN_2_02
10 Gomorrah

Legacy Match Play:

Fire 4, Gomorrah 1

Because the league standings could not be altered at this point regardless of the other two matches' results, the final standings for Iron Deckbuilder Season 1 are as follows

Champion: Niche
2nd: FIRE_REIGN_2_02
3rd: Gomorrah
4th: pyroclown
5th: Islands
6th: Sir_leo_iii
7th: Halo_Lover
8th: phaseshifter
9th: gamemaniac2
10th: zpikduM
11th: stinkyjoeterry
12th:AlienFinger_79

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Congratulations to Niche and thanks to everyone for participating in the innaugural season of Iron Deckbuilder! Look for Season 2 to start up after the 1st of the year (this calculus class is kicking the crap out of me)
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May 6, 2010 -- 9:08AM, useless_mancer wrote:

May 6, 2010 -- 3:57AM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this


but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD


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May 2, 2010 -- 9:34PM, Razorgore wrote:

May 2, 2010 -- 9:31PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:


Near Death Experience?


Gideon is not impressed by your triple white, incredibly difficult-to-manlipulate jank card.


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Jan 18, 2011 -- 11:22AM, Niche wrote:

MaRo keeps stabbing me in the face with cards like Phyrexian Rebirth. It's a black card.. with black art... in a white layer with white costs.

Up yours, design team.




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2 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2011 - 8:36PM #2
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Congrats Niche. I knew you had a nice Mono-Black deck on your hands after you picked Nielsen and Chippy (Blocking me from the Scepter). Good work Gom. While your Standard deck looks kinda meh, I do really like your old-school U/W Control for Legacy.


Edit: And Niche, nice next leveling by not going the obvious Natural Order route. I was still unsure if you had another fatty in your pool (4 Tariff in the board).
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2011 - 8:48PM #3
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Thanks for pulling the extra work to get it done, RTA.

I felt a little dirty with the way I built my MBC, but I scoped everyone's card pools and decided what put me in the best position to deal with it. Plus, consistency of the manabase was undeniable.

I was rather angry about my Legacy pool. I ended up drafting towards a Natural Order Rock build... and got angry at the drafts I put together. I scrapped it and tried a doran rock. Scrapped it. In the end I assumed everyone else was having as much trouble as I was so I decided to focus on my most degenerate interaction...  Pro 4 color.deck + Scepter Chant. The Aether Vial in the board was for Gomorrah's JTMS deck(and scourglass). The big joke is it wasn't even battled. C'est la vie.

I was really worried about this round. FR2 is a strong builder and Gomorrah got in the tops for a reason. Good round everyone.

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EDIT: FR2, yeah I assumed you guys zero'd in on my access to Natural Order + 1cc accelerators, e-witness, and hulk. I couldn't make it good enough, or fast enough... and so I tossed it because I couldn't make it Kung Fu enough to withstand hate without Rob Alexander. And my white deck looked a lot more retarded on completion.



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2 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2011 - 8:59PM #4
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Sep 20, 2011 -- 8:48PM, Niche wrote:

EDIT: FR2, yeah I assumed you guys zero'd in on my access to Natural Order + 1cc accelerators, e-witness, and hulk. I couldn't make it good enough, or fast enough... and so I tossed it because I couldn't make it Kung Fu enough to withstand hate without Rob Alexander. And my white deck looked a lot more retarded on completion.




Ya, your Legacy deck would've laughed at mine. Fetters, StP, Batterskull, and SoLaS? gg Zoo. Anyways, good round everyone. Look forward to seeing you guys back for Season 2. Thanks again to RTA, the testers, and the judges for making this season very enjoyable.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 23, 2011 - 9:24PM #5
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I was incredibly busy with thing IRL, and kinda still am. Knew my deck would come out pretty bad. Count me out for the next IDB, I've basically quit magic now that I'm in college.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2011 - 2:04PM #6
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I'm kind of sad at the community at large for not paying any attention to the final results.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2011 - 5:15PM #7
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I paid attention, although i figured you were going to win  (no offense to everyone else). I looked over cardpools a bit knew that you had the edge over everyone.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2011 - 5:33PM #8
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I knew the results, I helped Ant a bit with judging and playing the lists since some of his plans followed through.

Some basic notes, from the top of my head.

LEGACY:
Gom: Its a control deck, but you lack a big finisher....the only game I won against Zoo was when I dropped a mote and then sand bagged around 15 turns until I could kill all his squadron hawks (At this point he could not Fauna for enchantment destruction because he did not have any boarded in.). Your deck would have possibly been the best with some some more win-cons.
 
FR2: A take on Zoo, standard stuff but well made and I liked the singleton Hex.

Niche: Cannot really remember my previous comments but atleast grading wise, it was not my favorite list.

STANDARD:
Niche: You made a well constructed MBC list specially for the pools provided. That being said I liked the construction, but did not score it that well on the innovative side considering its you. It would be like me making a rock list :D I was the pilot for some of the matches and it worked quite well. I think I 3-0'ed one deck and one game I kept a mediocre hand to test the deck, and it came through just fine.

FR2: You had a good bomby list it worked, ramp out a bunch of beaters.

Gom: Probley my favorite list, just with how it plays out. Not to much to say.



GOOD JOB EVERYONE! YOU ALL DID GREAT.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2011 - 6:23PM #9
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Ouch, you dinged me for making an MBC list eh? =p

That's alright. My draft didn't go as excitingly as I'd hoped. Starting round 1 I wanted to go for a far more creative legacy deck but the cards I wanted did not help my standard pool at all. In the end I could present an 'ok', yet creative list... but my match wins were going to be in question. And if I tried to make it too good and creative I'd have a real garbage standard deck. So I lost a lot of legacy pop to draft standard.

In the end I decided I needed my decks to consistently perform on the really tight card pools and while I personally loathe the concept of a white based hate deck... it was something I had to put out there to win. I like winning. Plus it gave me Faith's Fetters and i knew FR was fielding aggro and Gom was throwing out JTMS. Seemed like a ridiculous 'meta wrecker' that never got a chance to shine. 


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 27, 2011 - 7:23PM #10
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Sep 27, 2011 -- 6:23PM, Niche wrote:

Ouch, you dinged me for making an MBC list eh? =p

That's alright. My draft didn't go as excitingly as I'd hoped. Starting round 1 I wanted to go for a far more creative legacy deck but the cards I wanted did not help my standard pool at all. In the end I could present an 'ok', yet creative list... but my match wins were going to be in question. And if I tried to make it too good and creative I'd have a real garbage standard deck. So I lost a lot of legacy pop to draft standard.

In the end I decided I needed my decks to consistently perform on the really tight card pools and while I personally loathe the concept of a white based hate deck... it was something I had to put out there to win. I like winning. Plus it gave me Faith's Fetters and i knew FR was fielding aggro and Gom was throwing out JTMS. Seemed like a ridiculous 'meta wrecker' that never got a chance to shine. 




Well one category is creativity and lets be honest, it just wasnt that creative :D

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