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1 year ago ::
Mar 24, 2012 - 9:23AM
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I was going to make a thread about this myself, but since one is already here, I'll post my thoughts.
First off, Tarmogoyf is the most broken green card in Modern right now. For two mana, you can have a 3/4, a 4/5, a 5/6 or a 6/7. There's no way to prepare against that. You have to hope you draw a Maelstrom Pulse or a Path. Players don't even need to cast him- he can be brought into play at EOT through Aether Vial. Normally, you'd have to pay lots of mana or run Birthing Pod to get a big creature.
My 0 mana Tormod's Crypt  can make your broken card a tiny creature. And you should be running plenty of ways to kill creatures anyway, because that's a huge part of what Modern is. Terminate  , Path to Exile  , Doom Blade  , Lightning Bolt  before it's too big, even Unsummon  can stall it enough to let you win. So there are plenty of ways to prepare against it.
As for Dark Confidant, he doesn't do anything much by himself except find a win condition faster. If that condition isn't there, he isn't playable. I think the answer is to leave Confidant legal and ban Tarmogoyf.
You're going to run a deck that doesn't have a win condition to find?
Confidant does not only find your win card. He finds your kill spells for that Tarmogoyf you don't like so much, more counters to deal with other threats, more lands to cast it all, etc. And he attacks for 2. Obviously he's not right for every deck - just the ones with swamps that like to play spells.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 24, 2012 - 12:53PM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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As for Dark Confidant, he doesn't do anything much by himself except find a win condition faster. If that condition isn't there, he isn't playable. I think the answer is to leave Confidant legal and ban Tarmogoyf.
On the basis of this comment alone, I have entirely discounted everything you just posted.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 24, 2012 - 1:44PM
#73
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I keep forgetting how awful some magic players can be.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 24, 2012 - 2:10PM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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I keep forgetting how awful some magic players can be.
If you are playing black and not running Dark Confidant, you are doing it wrong. Some decks even splash black just for Confidant.
Yet you believe it mediocre. Yet we are aweful.
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What's wrong with my formating?
you make paragraphs shorter than the page width
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1 year ago ::
Apr 07, 2012 - 12:00PM
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I keep forgetting how awful some magic players can be.
Thank you for reminding us.
I distinctly recall Dark Confidant being played in Affinity builds. He's really good.
I think they should keep the format right where it is. The top 8's are terrifically balanced. Tron, RUG Tempo, Soul Sisters, BW Tokens, Boremandos, Twin, Storm, Jund, Bant, Aggro Loam... all totally viable.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 07, 2012 - 5:12PM
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Haha. Haha.
"Confident? That's only card advantage. Goyf is a cheap beater that your opponent has to use a 1:1 kill spell on! Oh noz!"
Yes. Magic players are awesome. They they all sarcastic when confronted with someone who professes to know what's what but who values beatsticks over card advantage. That, to me, is awesome enough.
Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their ****  .
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1 year ago ::
Apr 09, 2012 - 2:43PM
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how has this not been locked yet?
1000th post November 26, 2010. Where Islands gets his decks: Spoiler:
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It was revealed to me in a dream. All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold. I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.
EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
EDIT3: Streak broken. Lost to an unexpected Overrun.  Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 11, 2012 - 10:40PM
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confidant does Not go in every deck just most, he needs to be in a deck with low cmc preferably fairly fast and aggresive. the opponents ive played who forget this tend to kill themselves. Ive even left confidants unblocked purely for the purpose of having them damage an opponent on low life.
they are very good but far from broken, imo.
goyf is incredible value. hes close to broken when he manages to swing t3 for 5 but thats relatively rare, he does require some setup and can be curtailed by graveyard hate even if thats relatively rare and usually comes at a price. All in all hes incrediboly strong but not broken. He IS probably the best costed combat creature in the game, especially considering that his power doesnt rely at all on synergy (with anything on the board anyway)
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1 year ago ::
Apr 19, 2012 - 1:40PM
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1) Price should never be a factor of a card getting banned. High prices can be a side-effect, but never a main factor of a broken card.
2) Magic is a business, they have to make money to survive. When a card is "popular" MTG will crank the price up of that card souly because of the fact that they need to pay the bills. So thats why cards like Confi and Tarmo are expensive. Along with natural inflation and the fact MTG keeps growing as a business, cards will continue to increase in price. Prepare yourself. (In my eyes though, money is a small cost to play such a brilliant game.)
3) Give the MTG Research & Development team a little respect would ya? They have been balancing this awesome game for like what.. 14 years now? The least you could do is try to come up with something intellectual to say on this forum instead of splooging your noob sauce all over your keyboard and then pressing enter.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 14, 2012 - 8:24PM
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I remember when modern first started up everyone said noone will use bob cause nothing uses him blah blah blah.
Before modern even became offical bobs price skyrocketed and the first 6 months noone used it, now it needs to be banned? wow dude quite your complaining.
Learn about autocard here ==> [*c]Lightning Bolt[/*c] Remove "*" and you get Lightning Bolt .  Keep extended alive for future generations so they dont have to sell out for modern. "If there is such a thing as too much power, I have not discovered it." —Volrath
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