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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 10:07AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of the Planeswalker Points Announcement.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 10:17AM
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Mar 30, 2005
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Finally, a great system that'll encourage pro and casual players to enter sanctioned events without repercussions for one's rating.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 10:44AM
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Feb 25, 2008
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Doesn't this point system lead to pro players grinding out FNMs for points they may need to get byes at GPs, or invites to PTs, etc...? And doesn't that go against what the casual environment that FNM is supposed to promote?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 10:47AM
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How does this work for qualifications if you can never lose points? Also, this seems to encourage bulk playing over actually doing well in a few events. I don't have time to play a ton of events in paper Magic, but you know what, I do well when I do play and so I can occassionally qualify for a PT on rating. In fact, I've been slowly building my rating up again and am about 40-50 points away from what would have qualified me for Honolulu, although that work was all for naught.
The entire system did not need a terrible, casual slanted overhaul. All that needed to be done was make it so that you could lock your rating in earlier and not have to sit out FNMs and stuff. (Or maybe just have FNMs not count towards rating). Instead we get this bizarre system.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 10:57AM
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I agree whole heartedly with Sperry. I enjoy playing high level magic a few times a year. I perform well at the few real events I play in and my rating reflects that, earning me byes and invites to nationals, PTs, etc. I do like playing in an FNM every now and again if I am free, but I work a very hectic job an don't have time to play sanctioned magic 3 times a week. I enjoy preparing a month or so before a large tournament, then taking some time off to catch up on my real work. This seems like it rewards quantity over quality. It does not seem fair that someone who has more free time than I, can play in a bunch of events and earn byes and invites, when in fact, I am a better player than he.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 11:16AM
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Mar 22, 2009
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I like the positive side to this: having experienced players sitting on their ratings to protect them was bad for the game. So thumbs up there. However... I have been looking at my results, and it seems terribly skewed towards FNM. For example, I went 1-2 and came 5th at FNM and scored 12 points. Then I went 3-0 and came 1st on a Sunday tournament and only got 10 points! This puts players who live close to FNM locations at a big advantage (I lose out due to transport issues on Friday evenings, so can only attend FNM once a month). Local players will have no problem overtaking me, no matter how much I win Sunday tournaments, simpy by turning up for FNM every week. BIG thumbs DOWN Wizards.  ~ Tim
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 11:21AM
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Jun 15, 2009
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The system is not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
As for doing well vs attending you only get a few participation points for playing whereas you get 9 points for each round win. While the more you play in the more points you get, winning is still important.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 11:44AM
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Jun 15, 2008
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Each event has a multiplier, people. FNMs only have a multiplier of three. The max points you can get from a single FNM are: 3 *((Max Wins*3) + (Draws*1)+Participation Points) Most FNMs have at most 5 rounds, so the max value is 45+3(Participation Points). That sounds like a lot, but when you reach Guildmage rank, each subsequent level takes 100 points, so you'd need to participate in two FNMs... and at the pro-level, its 1000 points or more per level.
Grand Prix have a multiplier of 8, and have many more rounds.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 11:48AM
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On first glance I like it quite a bit. I love the layout, I like that you dont lose points and I think the ranks are a nice touch.
But: I am not a very regular player. I play mostly casual. Organized play nothing but prereleases and FNM, sometimes a Game Day. I am not what you would call a competitive player.
Yet I do fairly well at the events, constantly finishing 1st or 2nd on FNM (which is Draft at our store), and finishing in the Top quarter on prereleases on average.
I believe the new system will not reward me as much for playing good as it will reward me for playing a lot. I don't have a huge problem with that since I like to play Magic and dont give as much of a damn about my rating as some other people do. But there are times when I dont get to play much, either because of work or because I simply have other things to do, and I assume that will impact my rating negatively in the future...
But overall, I like it quite a bit.
Another thing that came to my mind: Won't players in small FNM events have a disadvantage over players in bigger ones, given time? I have a feeling that your FNM performance is rewarded way heavier than other play, so the more rounds you play the more points you get?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 11:49AM
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Oct 22, 2009
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does each of the levels have rewards or are they just classed for no reason? like i am level 42 and i am unaware what that entitles me to or what i need to be aiming at to receive byes/invitions. i do like that i am allowed to play fnm w/o rating penalty if i lose and what not. i just want an article that explains this a litte more indepth.
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