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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 5:16AM
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You know how people complaining about Legacy and say it's a format all about combo kills in the first 3 turns because they know nothing about the format? Well Modern is basically the bad format ignorant people think Legacy is.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 5:38AM
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Date Joined:
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That would be great for us players, but I doubt it will happen. Grim Lavamancer and Nantuko Shade are one thing, Tarmogoyf is quite another, everything above $50 probably belongs in an FTV.
Do you have any idea how baseless that claim is? It essentially flies in the face of R&D's reprint selection process. If that's not clear enough - the value of an existing card has ZERO bearing on whether or not it gets reprinted. WotC bases their reprints off of customer demand, flavor, interesting gameplay, and nostalgia.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 5:50AM
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Without making it sound like a Vietnam flashback or something, "You weren't there". There was plenty of disruption decks, Jund running Molten Rains, 6 discard spells, slaughter pact to kill pestermite etc, and still, they were getting stomped.
I watched one of the few control players curve from thoughtseize, into DC, into V. Clique, then sit on counterspells for a few turns and they were just dead to twin-combo. The twin combo deck is entirely focussed on getting the combo and protecting it, and they can run more of each piece along with better protection spells. Disrupting Shoals were sold out at $15 Friday morning, which was interesting.
The cards you need to beat each combo deck are wildly different from each other, and can sometimes not make a difference. I saw Teeg out against a Cloudpost deck(stopping scapeshift), so the player(David Williams) just cast Summer bloom with Amulet on board and dropped his Gruul Turf three times to generate six mana and set up turn four Emrakul.
Watching a zoo player trying to put up an effective enough clock agaisnt Twin to sit back on counterspells is a farce, Josh's efforts were admirable, but it was always a losing battle.
With ponder and preordain, it's so easy to play around dirsuption for the combo decks, there is no incentive to run a non-combo deck at the moment, since combo decks like 12 post have a better and easier late game, as well as the ability to turn 3 hardcast emrakul, or turn two through the breach Emrakul.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 6:43AM
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the value of an existing card has ZERO bearing on whether or not it gets reprinted. WotC bases their reprints off of customer demand, flavor, interesting gameplay, and nostalgia.
I'll agree when they reprint Bob and Goyf in a widely available product. Or FoW, Wasteland, SoFaI, Vindicate, Polluted Delta... Customer demand for these cards is huge (and has been for a long long time), the price is indicative of that; subjective criteria such as interesting gameplay aren't enough to explain why we're not seeing these reprints. As of today, expensive old cards are at best getting the FTV or judge promo treatment. The cheaper ones are being reprinted in Standard and duel decks, very sparingly.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 8:43AM
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Date Joined:
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I want to know what kind of bad control player curved into 5 power worth of creatures and then lost a few turns later with a hand full of countermagic.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 9:04AM
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I just read through the whole conversation. If I remember correctly, Tarmogoyf  is one of those Future Sight cards with the special design that meant that they may or may not be reprinted in the future, in the same or different colors. I most certainly hope that tarmogoyf gets banned in modern and more control/disruption cards for modern (but not legacy) are printed. For me, this is the best-case senario. The worst case senario would be for tarmogoyf to be reprinted as a blue creature. Anyone else having nightmares? Meh. So far I don't like modern. I most certainly prefer Legacy. As CyrusBales very correctly said; " You know how people complaining about Legacy and say it's a format all about combo kills in the first 3 turns because they know nothing about the format? Well Modern is basically the bad format ignorant people think Legacy is.". This is what modern is. A format full of combo decks (some of them really nice, I like combo decks, don't get me wrong) and Tarmogoyf s. There is no balance yet, while legacy is a really balanced format, where turn-1/2/3 kills are easily disrupted and you have to figure out a more solid tactic.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 10:14AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 13, 2003
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Reprinting wasteland  would go a long way in balancing the format... *braces for fallout* I'm sure we've only seen the tip-of the iceberg for how Wizards will regulate Modern. I'm pretty sure they don't want all these combo decks running around. Nor do they want Zoo (and affinity? lol) to be the only viable aggro deck. We'll see bannings, unbannings, and Modern specific cards in the near future.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 4:17PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 14, 2007
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Wasteland is too strong for Modern.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 4:45PM
#29
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Date Joined:
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I love Modern. I hope nothing changes for a while.
This format is excellent.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 07, 2011 - 5:29PM
#30
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Date Joined:
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I love Modern. I hope nothing changes for a while.
This format is excellent.
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I want ancestral visions, mental misstep and stoneforge unbanned though!
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