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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2011 - 3:40PM #101
DrWorm
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2003
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Sep 13, 2011 -- 11:36AM, FroMoBlivion wrote:

selling 4 pieces of cardboard for 400 bucks, not really a mistake. Replacing them with Skinshifter.....not bad......so where did I make a mistake?......  


I don't think you did, especially if you used the money or credit to improve your constructed staples such as shocklands and dual lands.  I have faced gyof in Zoo many times, and it really does not shorten the clock much at all.  If you have Goyf, or if you are shooting for pro-tour, then it is worth your money to wring all you can out of your creatures, but for most of us your win percentage will not change much (if at all) running Skinshifter.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2011 - 5:40PM #102
JaketheLate
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
Posts: 2,406

Sep 6, 2011 -- 6:21AM, Wynzerman wrote:


o-O Perhaps he's disappointed because Modern didn't make us all capable of walking on water.




Blesphemy.

Everyone knows only Mark Rosewater can walk on water.

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

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but where DID the other fork come from?
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I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 6:53PM #103
supa_tim
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Sep 12, 2011 -- 10:10PM, Razorgore wrote:

I hate the fact that people have to play "budget" alternatives to goyf  when he is such a basic and fundamental card to green aggro strategies  and no real budget alternative exists.




This is literally the only part of your argument that holds water. Griping about the power difference between goyf and every other "2cmc vanilla green beater" is asinine. People aren't griping about the lack of Progenitus substitutes, nor are they griping about the lack of dark confidant substitutes, despite the fact that the prices of both cards are significant in cost. I don't even understand why you continue to re-hash your argument in this thread. Are you looking for validation? Most of the other posters understand goyf's power level, and are fine with it. Goyf is one of the best card designs in magic, since his scaling (which you mistakenly view as somethingworth banning) directly correlates to the speed of whatever format he's playing in.

The lack of fetches in the upcoming meta is actually one of the biggest hints that tarmogoyf could be seeing a standard-legal reprint in the next core set.



I'm...I'm not sure you read my post.

I don't want goyf banned.

I want goyf reprinted.

So it seems we are in agreement, no?

"There are some who call me...Tim?"

Go Duke!

I apologize for my lack of grammar, spelling, and coherence in my posts.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 8:54PM #104
Wynzerman
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2010
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Sep 14, 2011 -- 6:53PM, supa_tim wrote:

Sep 12, 2011 -- 10:10PM, Razorgore wrote:

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This is literally the only part of your argument that holds water. Griping about the power difference between goyf and every other "2cmc vanilla green beater" is asinine. People aren't griping about the lack of Progenitus substitutes, nor are they griping about the lack of dark confidant substitutes, despite the fact that the prices of both cards are significant in cost. I don't even understand why you continue to re-hash your argument in this thread. Are you looking for validation? Most of the other posters understand goyf's power level, and are fine with it. Goyf is one of the best card designs in magic, since his scaling (which you mistakenly view as somethingworth banning) directly correlates to the speed of whatever format he's playing in.

The lack of fetches in the upcoming meta is actually one of the biggest hints that tarmogoyf could be seeing a standard-legal reprint in the next core set.


 
I'm...I'm not sure you read my post.

I don't want goyf banned.

I want goyf reprinted.

So it seems we are in agreement, no?




I'm afraid that's probably my fault, and he is under the impression that we're making camps on "to ban" or "not to ban", even though my views are clearly among a minority, and more especially so if they are for the reasons why I take them. I'm hoping that I am wrong, and that future creature sets marginalize Goyf's power without making creatures stupidly good cards just for being creatures, but as it has been, I can see Goyf being a huge issue, reprinted or not. Regardless of this, I think everyone agrees that a reprint that has a solid MSRP sold outside of brick and mortars is exactly what Goyf needs (especially if the package contains multiples)



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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 11:19PM #105
izgor
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Sep 10, 2011 -- 6:57PM, zpikduM wrote:

Sep 10, 2011 -- 6:29PM, izgor wrote:

Sep 10, 2011 -- 8:29AM, S1AL wrote:

I'm assuming WotC intends to reprint Goyf... I mean, part of the reason for creating Modern is that it allows for a format where any absurdly expensive staple can be reprinted to drop prices. That, and talk about "headliners." You could reprint Goyf as a god damn rare and still sell an extra 50% boosters from that set.




Or they could reprint it mythic cus **** you (magic players).




A huge vanilla beater doesn't feel mythic. Theres no storyline attache to it, no special abilities, no set unique abilities. Just a vanilla beater would be rare at best.




I used to think mythics weren't about the money. Now I prefer the cynical route and think that they would gladly print a vanilla beater at mythic if it had such hype behind it.

And if it had good art I would probably /ok and buy it.

Of course I'm sure I've gone mad. The little man who crawled out of my eye was quite clear on this.
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1 year ago  ::  Dec 13, 2011 - 8:50AM #106
Sidneyious
Date Joined: Nov 26, 2008
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Time to make new decks, gnue teck as it were.

Honestly iam tired of people begging for reprints. Yawn.
Learn about autocard here ==> [*c]Lightning Bolt[/*c] Remove "*" and you get Lightning Bolt .



Keep extended alive for future generations so they dont have to sell out for modern.
"If there is such a thing as too much power, I have not discovered it." —Volrath
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 28, 2012 - 12:35PM #107
KingRusty
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I'm not going to pretend I read through 11 pages of posts, but I will say, in response to the notion that Modern is more expensive... that's ridiculous. I've built 4 decks based soley on Modern format for around $50 each. Each one of them goes toe to toe with the deep wallet Standard buffs who drop $200+ on a deck. Liliana of the Veil for instance, $50, you want copies? Oh lord, bring cash. You want copies of Sword of Feast and Famine as well? What, you on crack? $400 later... "Yeah!!! I have an awesome pwnage deck!" Play Standard against someone with a better build. "But... I spent $400 on a deck...."
I swear, with people spending so much on cards you'd hardly think we're in a recession.

On the topic of reprints... some would be nice. Reprints are always welcome in my book. To be honest, I think some reprints need reprints, but that aside, a card's a card. The pretty ones are for saving onto your desktop and looking at for eye candy. 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 28, 2012 - 5:02PM #108
blackcat77
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Why exactly did you bring this thread back to life?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 28, 2012 - 5:33PM #109
KingRusty
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It was on the first page. If it's on the first page I'm not inclined to check and see if the thread is ancient and if it is, then it's good to have some activity because a thread on the first page being inactive is little ridiculous. 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 29, 2012 - 2:59PM #110
DrWorm
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Yea, that is because Modern is not of much interest here for some reason.  At mtgsalvation there is a ton of traffic in the modern threads, but for some reason the folks that post on these forms have little interest in Modern.

That said, it is perfectly acceptable to add to any thread you want to.
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