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2 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2011 - 4:27PM #31
Echo_Robin
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Innistrad gives us Splinterfright . I don't think it's one of the better replacements, but it does have trample and it feeds itself.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 19, 2011 - 3:08AM #32
CyrusBales
Date Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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Sep 18, 2011 -- 10:42AM, Niche wrote:

I wish Terravore was modern legal.




Indeed. Quirion Dryad is another replacement that used to see a lot of play, in a world of snapcaster mage and gitaxian probe, this might not be a bad shout.....

Although it's probably better suited to legacy where snappy is good.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2011 - 9:38PM #33
dlthe
Date Joined: Jan 6, 2009
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I'd suggest that quirion dryad is probably the closest in functionality to goyf for a zoo type deck. It was *the* staple beatstick in u/g Miracle-grow back in the days before goyf was printed...
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 22, 2011 - 11:23PM #34
DrWorm
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2003
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Sep 2, 2011 -- 4:03PM, Ukot wrote:

If you're playing competatively you either play him in the deck that needs it or you don't play the deck.  It's that simple.  Don't look for alternatives to good cards when you're trying to win the PTQ.  It won't work.  But if you're just looking to play casualy then you have a tone of choices. 



No, you play him or else you have a slightly lower chance to win (and I mean very slight).  Considering someone going for PT money wants to have not even the slightest thing increase the chance of a loss, they will spring for them as it is a good investment.  For most competitive players less is on the line, so it really comes down to budget.  If you own Goyf there is no reason why you would not include it, but if you have to obtain it then it is reasonable to weigh the cost vs benefit  It really depends on what deck you are playing when judging how important Goyf is to it, but a goyf-less Zoo build could easily win nearly as many games as one with goyf because Zoo has such a high concentration of amazing creatures.  I played against a LOT of differnt Zoo builds last week, and by far the greatest threats were Nacatl (early and repeated beats) and KotR (big finisher).

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 26, 2011 - 10:03AM #35
Random-Miser
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2009
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Goyf isn't even good enough to be played in the format really. Vanilla big bear just is not the threat that it is in formats like legacy were stalling out the board after slipping him through is possible. In this modern your turn 2 goyf is likely to be completely invalidated by a turn 2 Knight of th Reliquary, or a turn 3 Titan, or deciver exarch. The card is not just replacable, in a LOT of instances he is actually suboptimal.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 26, 2011 - 4:41PM #36
Razorgore
Date Joined: Sep 30, 2009
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Sep 26, 2011 -- 10:03AM, Random-Miser wrote:

Goyf isn't even good enough to be played in the format really. Vanilla big bear just is not the threat that it is in formats like legacy were stalling out the board after slipping him through is possible. In this modern your turn 2 goyf is likely to be completely invalidated by a turn 2 Knight of th Reliquary, or a turn 3 Titan, or deciver exarch. The card is not just replacable, in a LOT of instances he is actually suboptimal.




Debatable. Teeg and pridemage definitely have valid reasons to be run over goyf, but it's still quite important to have a 2-drop in an aggro deck that can survive firespout or slagstorm. The next large modern tournamant should give us a better idea of what threats are ideal. For all intents and purposes, the new round of bannings is just another "reset button" on the format.


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