It's just that control requires a defined meta in order to work. And there's no defined meta in Modern because, surprise, it's its first PT ever!
In any case, it would be much better to unban Sensei's Divining Top than Mental Misstep. Mental Misstep would just destroy the format the same way Force of Will has ruined Vintage and Legacy.
Force of Will is the glue that holds Vintage and Legacy together. Were it not present, Belcher would win pretty much everything.
Anyway:
Somebody please get Hagon off of coverage. He's a total idiot, and is about as bad as Mike Lopez. He reads off all of the cards (the people who don't know the cards can just pause and look them up), assumes everyone knows approximately three cards and learned to play two days ago, and has no knowledge of the game (that he presents, at any rate) to back it up. At least with Buehler we got actual analysis of the match and amusing jokes, and didn't piss off the playerbase. Hagon makes the webcasts unwatchable.
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2. You pay billions of dollars in cards to win. If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.
what?
do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?
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[02:47:46] It doesn't merely "come out of suspend" - you take the last time counter off, and then suspend triggers and say "now cast that! CAST IT NOOOOOW!" [02:47:49] Because suspend has no indoors voice
[10:11:33] !opalescence [10:11:33] Opalescence {2WW} |Enchantment| Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. It's still an enchantment. · Reserved,UD-R,Vin,Leg,Cla,USBC [10:11:51] *sigh* [10:12:10] Otecko: Do you have a question about Opalescence? [10:12:17] sure [10:12:23] $10 on humility interaction [10:12:25] :P [10:12:29] :D [10:12:47] humility + opalescence put into play by replenish
You are totally awesome. Thank you so much. I hope you are able to dine in Paradise without kicking the bucket to actually get there, and that every dollar you ever make magically becomes two more.
There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically.
There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player.
I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, it just makes you believe it.
If you think I'm wrong, hold a legacy and/or vintage tournament with Force of Will banned. See what decks do well.
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My initial responses to rules questions are usually just answers. If you want an explanation as to why, say so. Just because it says I'm there, I'm not necessarily there. I leave my browser open so I don't have to reload ~30 tabs. Anyone who wants to text duel me through either PM or chat can just PM me with a format (and a time if playing through chat). I don't play standard.
2. You pay billions of dollars in cards to win. If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.
what?
do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?
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[02:47:46] It doesn't merely "come out of suspend" - you take the last time counter off, and then suspend triggers and say "now cast that! CAST IT NOOOOOW!" [02:47:49] Because suspend has no indoors voice
[10:11:33] !opalescence [10:11:33] Opalescence {2WW} |Enchantment| Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. It's still an enchantment. · Reserved,UD-R,Vin,Leg,Cla,USBC [10:11:51] *sigh* [10:12:10] Otecko: Do you have a question about Opalescence? [10:12:17] sure [10:12:23] $10 on humility interaction [10:12:25] :P [10:12:29] :D [10:12:47] humility + opalescence put into play by replenish
You are totally awesome. Thank you so much. I hope you are able to dine in Paradise without kicking the bucket to actually get there, and that every dollar you ever make magically becomes two more.
There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically.
There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player.
I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, it just makes you believe it.
If you think I'm wrong, hold a legacy and/or vintage tournament with Force of Will banned. See what decks do well.
Challenge accepted. Please, WotC, ban Force of Will now so that I can hold a tournament with it banned!
It looks like you have never tried to play storm combo/charbelcher in a format with mental misstep. Even the extended lie about Charbelcher breaking havoc can't be used anymore.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, it just makes you believe it.
If you think I'm wrong, hold a legacy and/or vintage tournament with Force of Will banned. See what decks do well.
Challenge accepted. Please, WotC, ban Force of Will now so that I can hold a tournament with it banned!
It looks like you have never tried to play storm combo/charbelcher in a format with mental misstep. Even the extended lie about Charbelcher breaking havoc can't be used anymore.
You do realize the Misstep is the issue, not Force, right?
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My initial responses to rules questions are usually just answers. If you want an explanation as to why, say so. Just because it says I'm there, I'm not necessarily there. I leave my browser open so I don't have to reload ~30 tabs. Anyone who wants to text duel me through either PM or chat can just PM me with a format (and a time if playing through chat). I don't play standard.
2. You pay billions of dollars in cards to win. If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.
what?
do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?
We regret to inform you of Trevor Kidd's untimely demise in an unfortunate accident involving a mysteriously blown breaker box and a photophobic creature of unknown origin at his home near Renton, Washington. We at the Wizards Community apologize for any inconvenience or delay, and assure you we'll be preparing a replacement to assume his duties as soon as we finish warming up the cloning vats.
[02:47:46] It doesn't merely "come out of suspend" - you take the last time counter off, and then suspend triggers and say "now cast that! CAST IT NOOOOOW!" [02:47:49] Because suspend has no indoors voice
[10:11:33] !opalescence [10:11:33] Opalescence {2WW} |Enchantment| Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. It's still an enchantment. · Reserved,UD-R,Vin,Leg,Cla,USBC [10:11:51] *sigh* [10:12:10] Otecko: Do you have a question about Opalescence? [10:12:17] sure [10:12:23] $10 on humility interaction [10:12:25] :P [10:12:29] :D [10:12:47] humility + opalescence put into play by replenish
You are totally awesome. Thank you so much. I hope you are able to dine in Paradise without kicking the bucket to actually get there, and that every dollar you ever make magically becomes two more.
There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically.
There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player.
I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, it just makes you believe it.
If you think I'm wrong, hold a legacy and/or vintage tournament with Force of Will banned. See what decks do well.
Challenge accepted. Please, WotC, ban Force of Will now so that I can hold a tournament with it banned!
It looks like you have never tried to play storm combo/charbelcher in a format with mental misstep. Even the extended lie about Charbelcher breaking havoc can't be used anymore.
You do realize the Misstep is the issue, not Force, right?
The format has received plenty of critcism from the players this weekend. Pros seem to agree on control being unplayable currently... which is not all that surprising since people were saying it as soon as they saw the banlist.
Mental Misstep, Ancestral Visions need to come off of it (personally I'd unban Top too), many even have suggested Jace TMS should be unbanned and that certainly is a possibilty.
I don't think any combo cards need to be necessarily banned, stronger control decks (Misstep in particular) would make the format a lot healthier.
Even with some serious flaws Modern is still more fun than Extended (which sucks horribly tbh), after some moves are made to make control viable it'll look real promising.
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As for the coverage... yes, it's horrible as usual. I can't understand how GPs and freaking SCG Open can have coverage so much better than the Big Show.
There are no excuses, WOTC should have improved their laggy coverage years ago. Not having live video coverage from the swiss rounds doesn't make any sense these days. I'm happy to see how the SCG circuit and GP coverage by ggslive has exposed the ineptitude of Wizards, and people have started to demand better coverage... but how much longer will it take before WOTC wakes up?
To the guy that said that control is not good before the meta needs to learn to play control first. The ban list is the most horrible thing I've ever seen. It is like WotC hasn't been dealing with cards for almost 20 years. You should ban things when they become a problem rather than peemtively banning stuff like that in such numbers. The problem is even a single ban can change the value of all the rest of the cards. Nobody can ever predict what happens when banning 20 cards together.... or actually you can, it will be a mess. Like having a tournament where there are 0 control decks in the top 16, 3 aggro decks, and 13 combo decks. LoL, that is an awesome!
The format has received plenty of critcism from the players this weekend. Pros seem to agree on control being unplayable currently... which is not all that surprising since people were saying it as soon as they saw the banlist.
Mental Misstep, Ancestral Visions need to come off of it (personally I'd unban Top too), many even have suggested Jace TMS should be unbanned and that certainly is a possibilty.
I don't think any combo cards need to be necessarily banned, stronger control decks (Misstep in particular) would make the format a lot healthier.
Even with some serious flaws Modern is still more fun than Extended (which sucks horribly tbh), after some moves are made to make control viable it'll look real promising.
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As for the coverage... yes, it's horrible as usual. I can't understand how GPs and freaking SCG Open can have coverage so much better than the Big Show.
There are no excuses, WOTC should have improved their laggy coverage years ago. Not having live video coverage from the swiss rounds doesn't make any sense these days. I'm happy to see how the SCG circuit and GP coverage by ggslive has exposed the ineptitude of Wizards, and people have started to demand better coverage... but how much longer will it take before WOTC wakes up?
I think this format is already healthier than legacy and vintage combined.
Control players can whine less, and start building good control decks. If they can't win without horribly broken cards, it's not because the format is bad. It's that they are bad, and need broken cards to compensate for their lack of ability.
If this were a combo format, Zoo wouldn't be able to compete, and 12post wouldn't be the most played deck.
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