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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2011 - 4:20AM #21
Scurra
Date Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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MaRo writes an article about why printing cards that you could only get through books was a bad idea, and so you decide to do it through comics instead?  
Yes, I realise that they are "alternate art" cards, and thus fall into the same sort of category as FNM cards, but even so... Wink


(Thanks for the Wallpaper though - it's magnificent.) 
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 9:08PM #22
mabhatter
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Sep 10, 2011 -- 4:20AM, Scurra wrote:

MaRo writes an article about why printing cards that you could only get through books was a bad idea, and so you decide to do it through comics instead?  
Yes, I realise that they are "alternate art" cards, and thus fall into the same sort of category as FNM cards, but even so... Wink


(Thanks for the Wallpaper though - it's magnificent.) 


The promo cards in comics were shipped WITH the comics last time, if I remember, just like promo cards in Scrye used to be. The ones for books you had to mail in.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 9:51PM #23
Makasat
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 9:40PM, willpell wrote:

Two deck boxes in the Fat Pack?  I'm sold.  I've been waiting  for this for like five years.  Guess they finally got the message that  they needed to add value to those things if they were to move.




The deck boxes in question are not very attractive - they are just cardboard boxes, the same they make for event decks. You can't even fit a sleeved deck in such a box.
Now, if they were plastic or metal ones, with a pack of opaque sleeves inside - that would be a hit! I'd buy every fat pack as soon as it hit the shelves. I think this is not going to happen though, so I'll continue buying every fat pack with slightly less enthusiasm.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 10:21PM #24
roz1281
Date Joined: Jan 25, 2011
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MBS and NPH had two deckboxes in each fatty also. Not sure about SOM.

I agree the deckboxes are subpar. At the least I wish they'd make them big enough for 60 sleeved cards. For now I use them to store 16 of each land per set (for collecting reasons) or for a set of land to take to events in case we draft (or pack wars etc).

Maybe WotC doesn't want to eat into Ultra-pro's business.

It is cool that they include 10 checklist cards though. Probably pull a few from the boosters too.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 10:22PM #25
Mouthsmasher
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Sorry I'm late to the Magic Arcana forums this month...

But that FNM promo is probably the most dissapointing one I've seen ( Teetering Peaks ?). It's a common that I think I've only seen someone play maybe once, and to top it off, it's being handed out in the SAME MONTH that it's rotating out of standard!? Has there every been an article written explaining how and who chooses the FNM promo cards? I'd sure like to know the thought process behind the card selection...

And as for the comic book, when will it be released or when will we be getting more information about it? My interest has been piqued

Do fat packs always come with 9 boosters and 80 land? I was given one about a year ago and I think it had 8 boosters in it. And as a word of suggestion, as someone else has said, could you make the boxes fit decks with sleeves? Or better yet, cut it down from 2 boxes to 1 and make the box out of plastic or metal.

 


   
   
   

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 10:27PM #26
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 9:51PM, Makasat wrote:

Sep 11, 2011 -- 9:40PM, willpell wrote:

Two deck boxes in the Fat Pack?  I'm sold.  I've been waiting  for this for  like five years.  Guess they finally got the message that  they needed  to add value to those things if they were to move.




The deck boxes in question are not very  attractive - they are just cardboard boxes, the same they make for event  decks. You can't even fit a sleeved deck in such a box.
Now, if  they were plastic or metal ones, with a pack of opaque sleeves inside -  that would be a hit! I'd buy every fat pack as soon as it hit the  shelves. I think this is not going to happen though, so I'll continue  buying every fat pack with slightly less enthusiasm.



I  saw the words "two boxes" and got all excited - but no, it's actually  still just one card box.  I should have looked at the picture.
Back when Ravnica Block premiered the modern fat pack, it contained two  full-sized card boxes, and was sized accordingly.  Now, they use the  same size outer wrap, but there's just one card box, which is awkwardly  propped open to make it the size of two.  I have largely avoided buying  them since then for this reason.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 11:01PM #27
chronego
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 10:27PM, willpell wrote:

I  saw the words "two boxes" and got all excited - but no, it's actually  still just one card box.  I should have looked at the picture.
Back when Ravnica Block premiered the modern fat pack, it contained two  full-sized card boxes, and was sized accordingly.  Now, they use the  same size outer wrap, but there's just one card box, which is awkwardly  propped open to make it the size of two.  I have largely avoided buying  them since then for this reason.


I agree, but the thing that made ME stop buying even more than the loss of the second box was when they stopped putting in those plastic separators. It's a small thing, but those are what you take for granted until they're gone.
I could live with losing the book, and I have enough of the card boxes to have two per color, one for lands, one for artifacts/multicolored and a few spares. But I loved using the separators to keep my cards apart by block, and since the number of blocks increases every year but now my number of separators is constant, I can't.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2011 - 2:39AM #28
Senyuno
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 10:22PM, Mouthsmasher wrote:

But that FNM promo is probably the most dissapointing one I've seen ( Teetering Peaks ?). It's a common that I think I've only seen someone play maybe once, and to top it off, it's being handed out in the SAME MONTH that it's rotating out of standard!? Has there every been an article written explaining how and who chooses the FNM promo cards? I'd sure like to know the thought process behind the card selection...



Commons, Uncommons, whatever. Alternate arts should be for fun, flavorful purposes, not devaluing something.

You may have only seen it once, but I've seen it a hundred times. It was in roughly every RDW I've seen in the past 2 years.

Yeah, the promo doesn't really seem to have anything to do with standard. Sometimes its in, sometimes its out, somtimes its close to being out. 

Even though it seems to be unrelated, I actually think they do take note. I don't know who does the deed, but I do have other theories. A few writers explain how these things are for flavorful purposes, and come out right when they feel it's right. It just turns out the subjective nature of "feel it's right" gives them many probable reasons:

a) Release when its popular
b) Release to support a certain format
c) Release to give it a "final farewell" from a format
d) Release because another vision for the art was just as likeable or perspectively interesting (difficult to guess on this one)

Ex:

a) Squadron Hawk
b) Rhox War Monk
c) Teetering Peaks
d) Wall of Omens? 

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2011 - 6:41AM #29
Amarsir
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 10:21PM, roz1281 wrote:


I agree the deckboxes are subpar. At the least I wish they'd make them big enough for 60 sleeved cards. For now I use them to store 16 of each land per set (for collecting reasons) or for a set of land to take to events in case we draft (or pack wars etc).

Maybe WotC doesn't want to eat into Ultra-pro's business.


I've never bought a fat pack, but are the deck boxes really that bad?  It seems particularly odd in a set that's built around "everybody uses sleeves" to have boxes that don't accomodate sleeves.  Does Wizards have a branded box they sell separately or do you think they're really just making room for Ultra-Pro?



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2 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2011 - 12:15PM #30
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Sep 12, 2011 -- 2:39AM, Senyuno wrote:


I don't know who does the deed




Out of context, this sounds incredibly onimous.
Either that or incredibly dirty.
...
Or both. 

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