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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2011 - 12:21PM #11
Artogg
Date Joined: Jan 25, 2008
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This is what I've been playing with for a day or 2 have been doing pretty fine


4x Tidehollow Sculler
4x Loam Lion
4x Qasali Pridemage
4x Tarmogoyf
2x Treefolk Harbinger
4x Doran, the Siege Tower
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3x Oblivion Ring
3x Dismember
4x Thoughtseize
2x Damnation
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4x Marsh Flats
4x Verdant Catacombs
4x Murmuring Bosk
1x Temple Garden
1x Godless Shrine
1x Overgrown Tomb
3x Plains
3x Forest
3x Swamp


No sb yet though >_>
 
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2011 - 12:43PM #12
catowner
Date Joined: Jun 8, 2010
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who would play obstinate baloth while timely reinforcements is legal?
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It was revealed to me in a dream.  All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.

FULL DISCLOSURE:  The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold.  I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.

EDIT: I just remembered.  The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.

EDIT2:  Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this.  My opponents have been very angry.  I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch.  Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.

EDIT3: Streak broken.  Lost to an unexpected Overrun.    Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.   



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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 3:43PM #13
Razorgore
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Sep 10, 2011 -- 12:43PM, catowner wrote:

who would play obstinate baloth while timely reinforcements is legal?




I can see the upside of playing a guy that actually trades or kills a large portion of zoo creatures, not to mention survives a bolt or helix.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2011 - 6:58PM #14
Niche
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Razor, can you share a version with Skinshifters in place of Tarmogoyfs and Dungrove Elders?

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2011 - 7:50AM #15
Shilafi
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Maybe Wilt-Leaf Liege over Baloth unless you really need the life gain because it would pump all of your creatures.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2011 - 10:37PM #16
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Sep 11, 2011 -- 6:58PM, Niche wrote:

Razor, can you share a version with Skinshifters in place of Tarmogoyfs and Dungrove Elders?

Thanks. 




Done.

2 x Doran, the Siege Tower
3 x Knight of the Reliquary
4 x Noble Hierarch
4 x Skinshifter
4 x Tidehollow Sculler
4 x Qasali Pridemage
1 x Treefolk Harbinger
1 x Gaddock Teeg

4 x Dismember
2 x Inquisition of Kozilek
2 x Thoughtseize
4 x Green Sun's Zenith
2 x Maelstrom Pulse

4 x Verdant Catacombs
3 x Marsh Flats
2 x Temple Garden
2 x Overgrown Tomb
2 x Godless Shrine
4 x Murmuring Bosk
2 x Dryad Arbor
2 x Forest
1 x Plains
1 x Swamp
1 x Bojuka Bog

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3 x Ensnaring Bridge
4 x Torpor Orb
1 x Eternal Witness
1 x Gaddock Teeg
4 x Obstinate Baloth
2 x Doom Blade

The doomblades and baloths are actually flex spots. Timely reinforcements is actually a lot less value against well-designed mono-red decks, largely because you are going to be even-or-up on them in terms of creatures, and it's too easy to burn out a 1/1 when you NEED to trade with a marauder or a figure of destiny. Torpor Orb + Bridge is largely there for the myriad combo decks in the format, as is the bojuka bog.

Skinshifter is a 90% downgrade to goyf, but he allows some pretty quick kills if you get the game locked down with a bridge.

EDIT- also note that dark confidant just isn't good enough right now. If-and-when combo gets reined in, maybe we can start thinking about winning the CA war, but that's not an option just yet.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2011 - 3:09PM #17
Niche
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Where are the Dungrove Elders?


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2011 - 9:39PM #18
Razorgore
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Sep 13, 2011 -- 3:09PM, Niche wrote:

Where are the Dungrove Elders?




Maybe I mis-read your request? I thought you wanted skinshifters instead of goyfs or elders. In that case, it's pretty simple to drop 2 skinshifters for 2 elders.

As much as I like this list, I think Kavu Justice is just a much better choice against the field right now, largely because boom/bust and fiery justice are both blowout cards against a lot of matchups.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 9:11AM #19
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Yeah I meant feel free to cram as much Elder and Skinshifter in as you like.

Boom // Bust is a card I love. Maybe I should force it into my Smallpox deck. I tried that a couple years ago in Extended and never got the chance to test it.


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