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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:05PM #1
metallix87
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MaRo's State of Design 2011

Interesting...

Things we'll encounter in the first set of Innistrad block:

- A card based on a silver-bordered white card
- A token-making sorcery which makes more creature tokens than any  previous token-making spell (not counting X spells or spells that make a  variable number)
- An enchantment that could let you play all your creatures for free
- A spell that can deal 13 damage to multiple creatures for one mana (and yes, I mean 13 damage multiple times)
- Many—and I'm talking more than a few—cards inspired by famous horror stories
- A card that turns a loss into a win
- A two-mana creature that lets you make a 2/2 creature each turn for two mana
- A card that lets you exchange your life total with something you've never been able to exchange it with before.
- A planeswalker with five loyalty abilities

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:07PM #2
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Aww poo. Beat me by 40 seconds.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:10PM #3
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 9:07PM, JohnnyComeLately wrote:

Aww poo. Beat me by 40 seconds.



Care to delete your thread, to consolidate all discussion here?

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:19PM #4
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I am going to preemptively say that 5 abilities is probably a bad idea.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:30PM #5
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 9:19PM, Mono789 wrote:

I am going to preemptively say that 5 abilities is probably a bad idea.




I'm going to preemptively agree with you.  But it can depend on what those abilities are.  And the casting cost of said PW.  If Bolas had 5 abilities, it'd still have that same problem it did when it was in standard:  You're dead before you can play it.  But since Garfield is on the design team, there's a really good chance it's really playable and really broken.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:36PM #6
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My guesses for the card based on a silver boardered white card:

Staying Power
Look at Me, I'm R&D

Staying Power would be cool.  I could see it being moved to green.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:37PM #7
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 9:19PM, Mono789 wrote:

I am going to preemptively say that 5 abilities is probably a bad idea.




In theory it is a catastrophically bad idea.
But given how bad they screwed the pooch with Jace, the Mind-Sculptor , I'm willing to bet this one is going to be too nice/expensive/crap too completely decimate all that we hold dear.

Hopefully...

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:41PM #8
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Silver-bordered white card:  
    As much as I hope it's Frankie Peanuts or Staying Power , I'm guessing it'll be based on Look at Me, I'm R&D , AWOL , or Erase (not the Urza's Legacy one) .

Token-making sorcery: 
    Wow, they're going to beat Conqueror's Pledge ?


Enchantment for free creatures:
    Something like Aluren ? Or "When ~ EtB, exile a creature card from your hand. Creature spells you play cost the exiled card's mana cost less to cast" or somesuch?

13 damage to multiple creatures:
   Probably involves your life total.   "13 - X damage to any number of target creatures, where X is your life total", or a creature-only Fireball that costs life instead of mana.  Both seem possibly broken in half.  Yay for more "13" cards , though!

Horror-story cards:  Yay!  

Loss -> win:
   So many things they could do here.

2-mana 2/2 2 something 2 2 2 2:
    Imperious Perfect ?

5-ability 'walker:
    At least the abilities will probably be short to avoid a Greater Morphling -style layout.

    But bad idea?  Maybe.  Probably.  It seems likely that it'll either have too much utility or abilities that are never used (or will be unplayable for other reasons, e.g. prohibitive mana cost).





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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 9:58PM #9
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Maybe you'll get to change life totals with target player's library, which causes milling or anti-milling, or you'll get to change life totals with target player's graveyard, which causes milling or anti-milling or graveyard destruction..
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 21, 2011 - 10:08PM #10
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When he said A planeswalker, I don't think he ment Garruk or liliana, I think it's a completly new one.
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