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Aug 22, 2011 -- 1:13PM, useless_mancer wrote:

why you not play mind shatter?

what is wrong with you OP?

also if you really want to be a terrible person, play quest for the nihil stone so that you actually have a clock that doesn't cost alot.

since the guy should have no cards in hand if you actually play correctly, this card should be a sufficient way to kill the oppoent very fast.

I would be willing to try Mind Shatter in my sideboard, but the reason I'm not main-boarding it is because it's more or less useless against aggro decks.  Most of the decks I've been seeing as the "big decks" have either been aggro or combo.  I am constructing my main board around that assumption.

Also Quest for the Nihil Stone is a horrible card for this type of deck (it's not really a good card in the first place).  The problem with it is that I would never actually want to draw it past turn 3.  Once I have emptied their hand I won't be getting cards on it unless I can force them to keep cards in there hand (strangly enough that might mean that it can combo out with Painful Quandry , but this deck does not have room for cards that are useless lategame without a specific card on the field).

Aug 22, 2011 -- 3:04PM, Niche wrote:

Painful  Quandry is painfully easy to play around. As a bribery style card in the  vein of Browbeat , Dash hopes and Temporal  Extortion it is far too easy for a skilled player to punish you for  letting THEM make the decisions and not YOU FORCING THEM ON THEM.

The thing that makes Painful Quandry differant than all the other cards you have named is that if the deck is working correctly by the time turn 5 has come around the other player shouldn't have many chances to pay one of the costs.  In order to play around PQ you must either sacrifice cards/tempo or life, either of which is good for me. However if you keep sacrificing cards to it, you will eventually run out of cards, and then you either must slow down, or pay life, either of which, once again, is good for me.  The other difference is that PQ is a continuous effect, while those other ones are one time effects.

Aug 26, 2011 -- 12:33PM, Raedien wrote:

Actually, I'm going to disagree with both of you (and considering his opinions on Painful Quandry...).

1. Exsanguinate doesn't target, this IS a big deal.

2. Corrupt is in the format.

1.  The ability to target only matters if the opponent has a way to make themselves untargettable (which would put a damper on any discard deck) or the ability to change targets, neither of which are common or even expected stratagies.  I would think the ability to target a creature is worth more than the off chance a rogue deck might have the spell to mess with it.

2.  Corrupt isn't as flexible of a card.  I would have to wait until I had 6 mana, preferably all of it in the form of swamps (which precludes the use of non-basic lands) in order to use it.  I agree that you might get more use out of it as a finisher, as it would deal 2 more damage than either of the other two (again only if you ran only swamps), but the ability to take out a troublesome creature when you haven't drawn any removal (or have already used it) without having to wait that long makes Consume Spirit much more versitile (and yes, I see that Corrupt can target creatures, but only after getting enough mana for it)