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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 8:07AM #1
sir_leo_iii
Date Joined: Aug 19, 2006
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My very first control deck was a discard deck and when ever something new comes along I always look at it and see how discard could work within it.  After modern finially came out on the gatherer, this is the list that I thought of.


3 x Duress
3 x Thoughtseize
2 x Distress
4 x Liliana's Specter
2 x Hypnotic Specter
4 x Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 x Doom Blade
2 x Go for the Throat
3 x Guul Draz Specter
2 x Mimic Vat
3 x Painful Quandary
4 x Sign in Blood
2 x Lashwrithe
 
24 x Swamp


Now I have yet to do any testing with this deck, or even formulate a sideboard, but I was curious about what the concessus would be about this deck, or even the viablility of this deck type in this format.  (I also have been brainstorming up an idea about a R/B version of this deck with cards like Blightning and Pain Magnification )
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 9:40AM #2
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Blightning good, Pain Magnification bad.

You're also going to get rolled over by Zoo. You've got 2 doom blades and some gatekeepers.

Also, Distress... bad. Inquisition... good.

Lili's spec probably better than Hyppie spec without ritual.

Mimic Vat won't work here.

You're going to get eaten by Zoo when you're on the draw and the go t1 nacatl.


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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 10:20AM #3
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There are so many better discard spells. Grul draz specter and painful quandary are way too slow. Use the rack , nyxathid and nezumi shortfang . Also why are you using sign in blood when phyrexian arena and bob are legal. 
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 5:09PM #4
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In addition to the cards mentioned in the previous posts, other cards to consider are Smallpox and Wrench Mind .
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 5:30PM #5
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And Stupor. And Tarmogoyf. Augur of Skulls, maybe?

Hmm... Deathcloud TarmoRack?
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 10:46PM #6
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I am thinking of trying out a MBC build, but I am thinking that it should be largely made up of discard and destruction, with Phyrexian Obliterator , Exsanguinate , and Kokusho, the Evening Star as win cons.

Something like:

Creatures:
2x Kokusho, the Evening Star
2x Phyrexian Obliterator
4x Gatekeeper of Malakir
4x Vampire Nighthawk
4x Dimir House Guard
2x Magus of the Coffers

Non-Creature Spells:
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Duress
3x Thoughtseize
4x Dismember
4x Damnation
2x Exsanguinate

Land:
4x Bojuka Bog
19 other lands

That is spitballing, but it is the kind of thing that I think could keep Zoo from gaining much of a foothold.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2011 - 11:02PM #7
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Don't forget Tombstalker that card should still be good in most black lists
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 7:17AM #8
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After posting this, I realized that I had not put in as many destruction spells as I normally would, and that that would mean a large disadvantage against zoo.

I will be updating this list soon, but I wanted to defend one of my card choices.

Painful Quandary is a much much better card than The Rack and similar cards.  One of the major problems with discard control is when the other player is in top deck mode (which you will force earlier than normal) you basically have run out of things to do.  With The Rack out they have no reason to not play things because the difference between having 1 card in hand and no cards in hand is 1 damage.  With PQ out the difference is 5 damage.  This either keeps cards in their hands, or you are doing 5 damage a turn to them, either of which is a good point for you.

And although I'm more willing to cut it, Guul Draz Specter forces the same kind of bad choices on the opponent.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 9:24AM #9
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I hate both Painful Quandry and The Rack. The Rack hasn't excited me since standard was 4th edition through Mirage Block.

But to defend the Rack... it costs 1. You're going to run into many games where you'll never even get a chance to cast a 5cc spell in Modern.


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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 5:06PM #10
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I could put together a good rack deck for modern. Should not be to hard with the card pool being what it is.
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