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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 5:23PM #11
bughferd
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Aug 17, 2011 -- 8:44PM, richeyz wrote:

For an all-artifact deck just put in 4 Worldslayer and a Darksteel Forge

u mad bro?

Add 4 Perilous Myr so even the opponent can suffer from the effects of Worldslayer





You should just stop posting most likely if you are serious.

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Is being unoriginal


Sep 5, 2011 -- 5:45AM, catowner wrote:

niche's solution to everything is always MOAR BLACK!

"ok, my legacy mono black control deck is getting hated out by light of day ..."
"MOAR BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 7:32PM #12
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Aug 15, 2011 -- 9:48PM, Mono789 wrote:

So, you're browsing around the forums and you see this new Modern section.  What is this new format, you ask?  I'm here to explain, random forumgoer.

Modern is a new format that, in the most general way to describe it as possible, consists of cards printed in the current card frame.  This means cards that were printed in the current card frame, so if you want to use an older card in its From the Vault form, or a card from the new Commander decks, or even an FNM promo of an old card, you're out of luck.  To be more specific, if it was printed in any core set from 8th edition onwards or any set from Mirrodin onwards, it's legal with the exception of the cards on a banned list.  I'll get to that next.

The following cards are currently banned in Modern:
Ancestral Vision
Ancient Den
Bitterblossom
Chrome Mox
Dark Depths
Dread Return
Glimpse of Nature
Golgari Grave-Troll
Great Furnace
Hypergenesis
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Mental Misstep
Seat of the Synod
Sensei's Divining Top
Skullclamp
Stoneforge Mystic
Sword of the Meek
Tree of Tales
Umezawa's Jitte
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
Vault of Whispers

If anyone has suggestions on anything else you think I should add to this thread, please let me know!


Modern is an experimental format that will be played at the Magic Online 2011 Community Cup, a response to players' desire for a non-rotating format that is more accessible to newer players. Modern consists of every block and core set using the modern card frame, currently consisting of MirrodinKamigawaRavnicaTime SpiralLorwynShadowmoorShards of AlaraZendikarScars of Mirrodin and their corresponding blocks, as well as the stand-alone expansionColdsnap, and the core sets Eighth EditionNinth EditionTenth EditionMagic 2010Magic 2011, and Magic 2012.


Just to make it easier for newer players, here is the list of the Modern Sets

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 8:37PM #13
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I actually specifically avoided the use of the word "block" because Coldsnap is legal in this format.
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Portal Mafia: Lynched Day 3, Test Subject #2, Mafia-Aligned Rolestopper, Town Victory (that was utter BS)
Toxic Waste Mafia: Survived, Violet, Hive (Cult)-Aligned Powerless Taskmaster, Hive Victory
PK Hatez You Mafia: Survived, Town-Aligned Goth, Mafia Victory
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Harry Potter Mafia: Argus Filch, Town-Aligned Tracker, Lynched Day 5, Mafia Victory
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2011 - 9:32AM #14
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Aug 15, 2011 -- 9:48PM, Mono789 wrote:


Modern is a new format that, in the most general way to describe it as possible, consists of cards printed in the current card frame.  This means cards that were printed in the current card frame, so if you want to use an older card in its From the Vault form, or a card from the new Commander decks, or even an FNM promo of an old card, you're out of luck.  To be more specific, if it was printed in any core set from 8th edition onwards or any set from Mirrodin onwards, it's legal with the exception of the cards on a banned list.  I'll get to that next.

....

If anyone has suggestions on anything else you think I should add to this thread, please let me know!




From the sounds of it, you mean that if you have a card, that was printed in a FtV, a precon, etc; and even if it was printed in a legal set, unless its print from that set its illegal?

Or am I just reading it incorrectly? Cause it doesnt make sense to add some banning just because of when your card was printed, not if it was printed in a legal set or not. I mean why does it matter if my Sword of Body and Mind  is from Scars or FtV:Relics?

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2011 - 9:48AM #15
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Aug 20, 2011 -- 9:32AM, Findlyn wrote:

Aug 15, 2011 -- 9:48PM, Mono789 wrote:


Modern is a new format that, in the most general way to describe it as possible, consists of cards printed in the current card frame.  This means cards that were printed in the current card frame, so if you want to use an older card in its From the Vault form, or a card from the new Commander decks, or even an FNM promo of an old card, you're out of luck.  To be more specific, if it was printed in any core set from 8th edition onwards or any set from Mirrodin onwards, it's legal with the exception of the cards on a banned list.  I'll get to that next.

....

If anyone has suggestions on anything else you think I should add to this thread, please let me know!




From the sounds of it, you mean that if you have a card, that was printed in a FtV, a precon, etc; and even if it was printed in a legal set, unless its print from that set its illegal?

Or am I just reading it incorrectly? Cause it doesnt make sense to add some banning just because of when your card was printed, not if it was printed in a legal set or not. I mean why does it matter if my Sword of Body and Mind  is from Scars or FtV:Relics?




You can always use older versions of cards that are legal in the format. What Mono means is that printings outside of the core sets and blocks do not qualify a card for the Modern format. So even if Sol Ring was printed in FtV: Relics with the new card frame, it's not legal in Modern.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2011 - 10:13AM #16
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What Quizzles said is correct.  You can play a card if it was printed in a Modern-legal set, but being in a modern card frame alone does not qualify a card for the format.  It has to actually have been printed in 8th edition core sets and onwards or in Mirrodin onwards.
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YMtC Mafia II: Henry-Stern, Town-Aligned Vanilla, Town Victory, Town MVP
Time Fracture Mafia: Mafia-Aligned Nero, the Last Romulan, Lynched Day 3, Borg Victory
Touhou Mafia III: Tenshi Hinani, Town-Aligned Vanilla, Survived, Mafia Victory, Town MVP
Mafia 2010: Lynched Day 1, Town-Aligned Vanilla, Mafia Victory
Dragonball Z Mafia: Goku, Town-Aligned Charismatic Townie, Mafia Victory
Quarantined Mafia: Lynched Day 4, J. Walter Weatherman, Infected-Aligned Administrative Assistant, Mr. T (so basically mafia) Victory
Glass Box Mafia: Killed Night 2, Icthys, Town-Aligned Networker, Town Victory
Battle Royale Mafia: Killed Night 3, Zipperflesh and Dark Stryke Victory
Scars of Mirrodin Mafia: Killed Night 3, Town-Aligned Charismatic, Mafia Victory
Portal Mafia: Lynched Day 3, Test Subject #2, Mafia-Aligned Rolestopper, Town Victory (that was utter BS)
Toxic Waste Mafia: Survived, Violet, Hive (Cult)-Aligned Powerless Taskmaster, Hive Victory
PK Hatez You Mafia: Survived, Town-Aligned Goth, Mafia Victory
Dreven City: A Wild West Mafia: Town-Aligned "Los Angeles" Reed, One-Shot Vig, Survived, Town Victory (just barely, major props to Just a Cleric)
YMtC Mafia III: Killed Night 2, Mafia Victory
Vampire Mafia: Mafia-Aligned Pander, Mafia Victory
Touhou Border Collapse: Bill Cosby, Town-Aligned, Killed Night 1, Mafia Victory
Harry Potter Mafia: Argus Filch, Town-Aligned Tracker, Lynched Day 5, Mafia Victory
[Basic #5] Bandit Mafia: Town-Aligned Vanilla, Survived, Mafia Victory
Borderlands Mafia: Town-Aligned Mason, Killed Night 1, Town Victory
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Full Metal Alchemist Mafia: Alphonse Elric, Town-Aligned Mason, Killed Night 1, Town Victory
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True Blood Mafia: Lynched Day 4, Mafia Victory
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Paper Mario Mafia: Blue Goomba, Town-Aligned Lover, Killed Night 2, Mafia Victory
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A Certain Magical Mafia: Killed Night 1, Town-Aligned
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Mafia of Ancient Egypt: Replaced in for Murica day 2, Ra, Town-Aligned Charismatic, Town Victory, Town MVP
Lord of the Rings Mafia: Replaced in for Dr Demento, Town-Aligned Mason/One-Shot Self-Doc, Town Victory, Town MVP
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Mythos Mafia: Ongoing
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2011 - 10:14AM #17
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Thanks, I had just read it as I woke up, so the wording on it seemed odd. I also might of read it but somehow missed the 'older' part. It could be cut down to just the first sentence, and last two to simplify it. The second sentence, seems unneccasary with the third sence of the paragraph.


Sometimes the best explanations, are the simplest. Just leaving it at the 'current card frame' is 8th edition on, is enough. No way people can misread it as a 'older', which to some I know not in standard means 'old'. It's dumb, I know, but again you are writing this for the masses, leave it short, plain, and simple IMO.


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2 years ago  ::  Aug 20, 2011 - 7:17PM #18
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Lets just kill the use of modern card frame as a way to explain it cause it just causes more problems than its worth.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2011 - 11:30AM #19
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Mono, an update of the banned list is needed! Please and thank you, good sir!
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 04, 2011 - 10:19PM #20
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Aug 15, 2011 -- 10:11PM, richeyz wrote:

Also, not to piss anyone off, but talk with other players about Worldslayer . I honestly love this card, but by the time I can get a strong enough creature to equip it I'd already be dead. I'm sure SOMEONE has been able to find use for it.




Indestructible (more equipment) or creatures with flying seem to work well with Worldslayer. My boyfriend has a Worldslayer deck that works wonders, for him anyway.

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