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2 years ago ::
Aug 15, 2011 - 5:12PM
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Oh, am I the first one to post a combo deck here? Hehehe. Well, legacy has the ANT storm deck, my guess is that Modern will have the Dragonstorm  combo deck. There's no Force of Will  here, combo out freely! 4 x Cascade Bluffs  4 x Scalding Tarn  3 x Steam Vents  2 x Fungal Reaches  2 x Calciform Pools  1 x Halimar Depths  2 x Shivan Reef  1 x Island  3 x Mountain  4 x Bogardan Hellkite  1 x Hunted Dragon  1 x Hellkite Charger  4 x Dragonstorm 4 x Seething Song  4 x Desperate Ritual  4 x Rite of Flame  4 x Dream Fracture  4 x Remand  4 x Preordain  4 x Ponder  Thoughts? Ideas? No sideboard yet, don't know what the meta will be like. Thought of Lightning Bolt  , Pyroclasm  or Magma Jet  . I just need to combo out before Tarmogoyf  kills me.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 15, 2011 - 6:56PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 22, 2006
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I'd probably play it more like Belcher/All in Red especially because there is no Force of Will. Land: 20 4 Scalding Tarn 4 Arid Mesa  4 Fungal Reaches 8 Mountain Fast Mana and Cantrips: 24 4 Simian Spirit Guide  4 Rite of Flame 4 Desperate Ritual 4 Seething Song 4 Pyretic Ritual  4 Manamorphose  Kill: 16 4 Dragonstorm 4 Empty the Warrens  4 Bogardan Hellkite 1 Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund  3 Deus of Calamity  Numbers have to be tweaked, but I like how you can storm out for many goblins turn 1 and put pressure on your opponent as you restock your hand. Turn 1 Deus can land screw your opponent.
My Trade ThreadControl capabilities are in all the colors. The difference is in the way they say no.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 16, 2011 - 8:58AM
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2 years ago ::
Aug 16, 2011 - 1:44PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 22, 2006
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My Trade ThreadControl capabilities are in all the colors. The difference is in the way they say no.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 1:48AM
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I'd probably play it more like Belcher/All in Red especially because there is no Force of Will.
Land: 20
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid Mesa
4 Fungal Reaches
8 Mountain
Fast Mana and Cantrips: 24
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Rite of Flame
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Seething Song
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Manamorphose
Kill: 16
4 Dragonstorm
4 Empty the Warrens
4 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
3 Deus of Calamity
Numbers have to be tweaked, but I like how you can storm out for many goblins turn 1 and put pressure on your opponent as you restock your hand. Turn 1 Deus can land screw your opponent.
Didn't think of that. However, will those goblins be enough to be a winning condition? I mean, a Pyroclasm will ruin your day. Deus of Calamity turn one seems brutal indeed. If we are about to use storm as just another winning condition and use big amounts of mana to summon big beasts, why not use Blightsteel Colossus  or something like that instead?
The goblins can get there, after all while a Pyroclasm or Ratchet Bomb or Engineered explosives can be problematic, they still have to draw it just like any hate piece. Storming for 10+ goblins turn 1 puts your opponent on a fast clock and gets around things like Leyline of Sanctity  . The mana requirements for Empty the Warrens are also significantly less than Dragonstorm, which makes it easier to hit on turn 1. If you wanted to use Goblin Bushwhacker  in the list you could theoretically swing for 22 on turn 1. There is a reason why Empty the Warrens is used in Belcher and TES. As for using Deus, getting RRRRR is quite easy for this deck and can be hit turn 1. Hitting 12 mana would be a lot harder.
You're right. I'm gonna stick with your version of Dragonstorm. Seems like a pretty budget deck and pretty effective. The only thing that worries me is that Spell Snare  and Spell Pierce  almost kill the deck instantly. I'm gonna use Boseiju, who Shelters All  at least 1 time.
I think I'll cut 2 lands and go down to 18. I don't think this deck will need more than 3 lands on the battlefield anyway.
Sideboard ideas so far are:
1 Volcanic Awakening  (Yep. I've waited to use 1-of this card for so long. Seems like that in this deck's SB can do a lot of damage).
4 Blood Moon  (thinking of using this card as a 2-of in main board an 2-of in sideboard, plus 3 Magus of the Moon  in sideboard. It's another instant lock I pretty much like. I prefer Back to Basics  but obviously this isn't legacy.)
2-3 more Boseiju, who Shelters All . I'm gonna hate any opponent who counters my Desperate Ritual with a Spell Snare .
I need help at that matter. Gotta see more decklists and figure out how take 'em quickly out. Against non-control decks, this deck can pretty much like achieve an instant kill I think. Against control decks, there're gonna be a lot of problems. Any ideas at that matter?
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 2:02AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2006
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The great things about Dragonstorm are its speed and its resilience to counter spells. Rather than trying to build an all-in deck, just play to those strengths. You can devote your sideboard to aggro and hate. 4x Bogardan Hellkite 1x Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund 4x Ponder 4x Preordain 4x Peer through Depths  3x See Beyond  4x Gigadrowse  4x Remand 4x Rite of Flame 4x Seething Song 4x Dragonstorm 3x Island 1x Mountain 4x Steam Vents 4x Cascade Bluffs 3x Scalding Tarn 3x Misty Rainforest  2x Arid Mesa
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 2:13AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 29, 2007
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I don't know - a counterspell targeting the first Seething Song sounds like trouble to me.
I'd probably build it as an all-in deck and then side in Guttural Resposes or something for the Control MU.
I'm no expert, though - maybe a couple of Boseijus MD will do the trick.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 4:24AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 22, 2006
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There are a few ways I've seen Dragonstorm built. One is the R/U version that packs some control, the all in monored versions, and a version that uses Spinerock Knoll  back in TS/Lor standard. Each one would have their own strengths and weaknesses. I personally like the all in version due to its variety of win cons and no need to wait. Being able to put immediate pressure on your opponent and ignoring Leyline of Sanctity is a great thing.
My Trade ThreadControl capabilities are in all the colors. The difference is in the way they say no.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 8:00AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2006
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I don't know - a counterspell targeting the first Seething Song sounds like trouble to me.
I'd probably build it as an all-in deck and then side in Guttural Resposes or something for the Control MU.
I'm no expert, though - maybe a couple of Boseijus MD will do the trick.
Well the idea is to wait until you can Gigadrowse to tap them out at EOT, then win the next turn unhindered.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2011 - 5:35PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 29, 2007
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That might be kinda hard to do playing 20 lands...
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