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1 year ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 3:58AM #11
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1 year ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 5:25AM #12
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May 21, 2012 -- 5:30PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

since the popularity of edh, the ruling under my understanding has changed


your understanding is wrong

EDH has a few supplemental rules about deck construction and rules about how the General functions and an additional way of losing (21+ damage from a general), but otherwise follows the normal Magic rules.

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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 5:56PM #13
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i know for a fact u can bounce greeves or boots if u for example gen wave for sum sill amount u can bounce greeves and swing all out
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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:04PM #14
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May 29, 2012 -- 5:56PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

i know for a fact u can bounce greeves or boots if u for example gen wave for sum sill amount u can bounce greeves and swing all out




That is incorrect.

Haste is what allows a creature to attack the turn it enters the battlfeild. When a creature stops being equipped, it no longer has haste. So it can't attack.

I'm going to guess that the Genisis wave deck has some creature in it that gives all creatures haste, and that's why they can all attack. Or perhaps they cast Gensis wave at the end of an opponet's turn, so that the creatures can attack on your turn. Or perhaps that person is playing the game incorrectly and no one has pointed this out (It happens alot).

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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:04PM #15
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May 29, 2012 -- 5:56PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

i know for a fact u can bounce greeves or boots if u for example gen wave for sum sill amount u can bounce greeves and swing all out




You are incorrect. The creature only has haste and shroud as long as the Greaves are attached to the creature. If you equip the Greaves to another creature, then the previously equipped creature will no longer have haste or shroud. So you cannot use the Greaves to allow multiple creatures that are affected by "summoning sickness" to attack during the same combat phase.

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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:07PM #16
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May 29, 2012 -- 5:56PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

i know for a fact u can bounce greeves or boots if u for example gen wave for sum sill amount u can bounce greeves and swing all out


Uhh.. no. Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots can only grant haste to one creature (each) at a time. You can bounce it or move it around as much as you want, but in the end, it only affects 1.

You may have witnessed something involving another card, like Urabrask the Hidden .

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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 7:44PM #17
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May 29, 2012 -- 5:56PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

i know for a fact


What's the source of this «fact»?

«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

Sounds familiar?
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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 8:20PM #18
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May 29, 2012 -- 5:56PM, King_Zakuil wrote:

i know for a fact u can bounce greeves or boots if u for example gen wave for sum sill amount u can bounce greeves and swing all out



No, you don't, since you (never mind "u" ) can't know something that isn't true. At most you can believe it.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 8:10AM #19
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May 29, 2012 -- 8:20PM, jeff-heikkinen wrote:

No, you don't, since you can't know something that isn't true. At most you can believe it.


You can say that again!

«In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination
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«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

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