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2 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2011 - 7:26AM
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Jun 24, 2006
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OK I have a few questions about how some things work with creatures with X in their costs.
If I use a Green Sun's Zenith to get a Primordial Hydra can I only pay 2G and get a Hydra that will instantly die (since X is often thought to be zero) or can I pay say 4G and get a 2/2 Hydra on the battlefield?
Secondly copy effects. If I Phyrexian Metamorph or Clone a Hydra with 3 +1/+1 tokens on it does the Hydra / Metamorph that comes into play have the same number of tokens as the one it cloned?
Thirdly - If I use Doubling chant with a 3/3/ Hydra in play will I get another 3/3 Hydra out of my deck or a useless 0/0 Hydra that instantly dies.
Your help is appreciated.
Gavin
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2 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2011 - 7:28AM
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Jul 28, 2010
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X is always 0 except on the stack so with Green Sun's Zenith  or a Clone  or doubling chant  the Hydra  will always have 0 counters and be moved to the graveyard as a statebased action (unless you have some way  to keep her alive)
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2 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2011 - 10:44AM
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Relatedly, I'm guessing that an Oblivion Ring  on a Primordial Hydra  will take care of it permanently, since when it comes back X will be 0? It's a fun trick that won me a match game this week. 
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2 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2011 - 10:46AM
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That's correct.
All Generalizations are Bad
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12 months ago ::
Jul 11, 2012 - 1:34PM
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I learned this one the hard way.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 11, 2012 - 1:35PM
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don't necro old threads
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12 months ago ::
Jul 11, 2012 - 7:26PM
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Jun 21, 2012
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With hydra's like that, it's best to play with blue (for defense)
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