Howdy folks, M12 is now in Gatherer (well, partially so far), prerelease is tomorrow. Time for this thread.
The rules: 1) Tell me what you consider to be the best card(s) for multiplayer in M12. Which card do you want sixteen copies of? Which card is going to tear your meta apart? 2) I'll keep tally here. 3) I vote first. Because I'm a dictator or something.
Howdy folks,M12 is now in Gatherer (well, partially so far), prerelease is tomorrow. Time for this thread.The rules:1) Tell me what you consider to be the best card(s) for multiplayer in M12. Which card do you want sixteen copies of? Which card is go
My vote - I have to go with Adaptive Automaton here. I'm going to see it far too much, and I'm going to want fourteen of my own. Sure, it's not going to shatter my meta, but it's going to help produce some fun decks.
My vote - I have to go with [c]Adaptive Automaton[/c] here. I'm going to see it far too much, and I'm going to want fourteen of my own. Sure, it's not going to shatter my meta, but it's going to help produce some fun decks. :)Honourable mentions: [c]
At $2.50 CDN a piece, Sundial of the Infinite is the biggest steal I've ever seen. I might even have to pre-order them. This card is the stone-cold nuts, I mean it breaks so many cards in two. Given that it's an artifact, and given that no one values it yet, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that people try to pick these up while you still can. You will never see a card like this again; this will be a $10.00 card like Crucible of Worlds in no time. But yeah, this gets my vote.
Honestly, buy this damned card for $2.50 or whatever. It's so amazing!
At $2.50 CDN a piece, [c]Sundial of the Infinite[/c] is the biggest steal I've ever seen. I might even have to pre-order them. This card is the stone-cold nuts, I mean it breaks so many cards in two. Given that it's an artifact, and given that no one
Archon of justice , it just makes people not want to mess with you unless they really want their best permanent exiled or a 4/4 flyer that they probably don't want to block coming at them.
[c]Archon of justice[/c], it just makes people not want to mess with you unless they really want their best permanent exiled or a 4/4 flyer that they probably don't want to block coming at them.
I'm going to go with non-planeswalkers, and something that will look to be in a price range that I can afford to buy, namely 5 dollars or less, and if its going to cost several dollars it needs to have a game defining effect. Thats why a card that I think is great and looks like tons of fun, Skinshifter , probably won't make any of my decks until it rotates standard.
There are lots of good pinch hitters in the colors, good guys at 6 CC on down that contribute, like Aegis Angel and Arachnus Spinner .
I'm looking for something that is a big splashy bomb that has potential to win games. Doubling Chant could be green's Insurrection or Time Stretch I've really got my eyes on it.
I'm going to go with non-planeswalkers, and something that will look to be in a price range that I can afford to buy, namely 5 dollars or less, and if its going to cost several dollars it needs to have a game defining effect. Thats why a card that I
I'm going to go with non-planeswalkers, and something that will look to be in a price range that I can afford to buy, namely 5 dollars or less, and if its going to cost several dollars it needs to have a game defining effect. Thats why a card that I think is great and looks like tons of fun, Skinshifter , probably won't make any of my decks until it rotates standard.
There are lots of good pinch hitters in the colors, good guys at 6 CC on down that contribute, like Aegis Angel and Arachnus Spinner .
I'm looking for something that is a big splashy bomb that has potential to win games. Doubling Chant could be green's Insurrection or Time Stretch I've really got my eyes on it.
I'm going to go with non-planeswalkers, and something that will look to be in a price range that I can afford to buy, namely 5 dollars or less, and if its going to cost several dollars it needs to have a game defining effect. Thats why a card that I
Doubling Chant doesn't immediately win the game unless you have other cards out, like Concordant Crossroads . It's not really on the same level as the cards you mentioned. It's also makes your deck incredibly weak to mass removal, because one WoG can take half of it out. I can just imagine casting Life's Finale after you use this card lol.
[c]Doubling Chant[/c] doesn't immediately win the game unless you have other cards out, like [c]Concordant Crossroads[/c]. It's not really on the same level as the cards you mentioned. It's also makes your deck incredibly weak to mass removal, becaus
Doubling Chant doesn't immediately win the game unless you have other cards out, like Concordant Crossroads . It's not really on the same level as the cards you mentioned. It's also makes your deck incredibly weak to mass removal, because one WoG can take half of it out. I can just imagine casting Life's Finale after you use this card lol.
[c]Scrambleverse[/c] is easily the crown jewel of crapiness......oh the best multiplayer card.....hmm well I'm most exited about [c]Adaptive Automaton[/c]One Lord to rule them all, One Lord to find them, One Lord to bring them all and in the glory to
However, the best card in M12 is definitely Jace's Archivist . Seriously, a windfall every turn is brutal in so many different kinds of decks.
Makes me wonder...if Jace and Liliana have a kid....he would be broken before he leaves the womb.
Excluding the planeswalkers, namely [c]garruk, Primal Hunter[/c] and [c]Jace, Memory Adept[/c], and excluding the cards I know I'll see, like [c]arachnus spinner[/c], I think my favorite card out of this set is [c]circle of flame[/c]. However, the be
The best card is probably Sundial of the Infinite , because as Tich says it does something that big, and unusual. I want 16 copies of Swiftfoot Boots . Mostly, because it will be easy to obtain 16 or so copies as an uncommon, and it is a really good card.
My vote is still for SotI though.
The best card is probably [c]Sundial of the Infinite[/c], because as Tich says it does something that big, and unusual.I want 16 copies of [c]Swiftfoot Boots[/c]. Mostly, because it will be easy to obtain 16 or so copies as an uncommon, and it is a r
In terms of sheer fun value, one copy of Worldslayer can wreak all kinds of havoc on everyone. You equip it to a creature, you attack someone who's defenseless or can't block the creature (equip it to something with a landwalk and attack someone of that color, for instance). That resets the ENTIRE board, including lands. Five turns later, you equip it to something else, repeat and laugh hysterically.
It's not the best multiplayer card. It will make everyone hate you which is the worst strategical move in Multiplayer. But it sure is fun.
In terms of sheer fun value, one copy of [c]Worldslayer[/c] can wreak all kinds of havoc on everyone. You equip it to a creature, you attack someone who's defenseless or can't block the creature (equip it to something with a landwalk and attack someo
Garruk's Horde , because it is awesome, and provides green with some more virtual cards in hand.
But noting from the many different cards I have that have been mentioned, this whole set seems pretty good for multiplayer:D
[c]Garruk's Horde[/c], because it is awesome, and provides green with some more virtual cards in hand.But noting from the many different cards I have that have been mentioned, this whole set seems pretty good for multiplayer:D
I find the set to be pretty terrible overall, incredibly uninspired. So far I haven't seen M12 incorporated into a single multiplayer deck, be it here or on MTGSalvation. No impact on my personal meta either.
The best thing to come out of M12 will be titans post rotation. Everyone will be able to get them cheap, and they're decent creatures to field in multiplayer. Among the top 25 creatures for each color anyways.
But yeah, I found that M12 has had 0 impact thusfar.
I find the set to be pretty terrible overall, incredibly uninspired. So far I haven't seen M12 incorporated into a single multiplayer deck, be it here or on MTGSalvation. No impact on my personal meta either.The best thing to come out of M12 will be
I find the set to be pretty terrible overall, incredibly uninspired. So far I haven't seen M12 incorporated into a single multiplayer deck, be it here or on MTGSalvation. No impact on my personal meta either.
The best thing to come out of M12 will be titans post rotation. Everyone will be able to get them cheap, and they're decent creatures to field in multiplayer. Among the top 25 creatures for each color anyways.
But yeah, I found that M12 has had 0 impact thusfar.
That I have to agree with. I'm about to roll out a deck featuring the Empires playset , just to see if it works, but even that's probably in the shell of an old deck.
But I guess that's what a core set should mostly be about - giving you the standard cards to augment your decks, while the blocks give you the cards to actually build decks around. Though I agree with you, I'd like to see more "build around me" cards.
That I have to agree with.I'm about to roll out a deck featuring [c=Crown of Empires]the[/c] [c=Throne of Empires]Empires[/c] [c=Scepter of Empires]playset[/c], just to see if it works, but even that's probably in the shell of an old deck. But I gues
I agree that there are no truly good multiplayer cards in M12. I love Chandra's Phoenix and I will be getting a playset for my Chandra deck soon (Chandra, the Firebrand is a bit too expensive atm) but beyond that there are no cards I have bought or am planning to buy for my multiplayer decks.
Maybe we can all blame the commander decks realesed just before M12 but since I love that product and the new cards presented there I won't go so far as to badmouth the commander decks because they caused less multiplayer goodies in M12.
I agree that there are no truly good multiplayer cards in M12. I love [c]Chandra's Phoenix[/c] and I will be getting a playset for my Chandra deck soon ([c]Chandra, the Firebrand[/c] is a bit too expensive atm) but beyond that there are no cards I ha
Timely Reinforcements is a halfway decent card that is being played in top tier standard midrange and control decks to survive against aggro and beatdown decks.
In multiplayer there is a greater chance of it giving both goodies but it still has flaws: If you are ahead, it does nothing. This isn't neccesarily a bad thing because win more cards (the exact opposite) are bad so some will say this is good but a card that does nothing at any given time in a game that you want to win is never good. I will try to clarify that too long sentence a bit: A Wrath of God also does nothing if you are loosing to a creatureless board but it isn't a bad card because that hardly ever happens. If you are going to win, you should be ahead at any given time and at that time a Wrath of God generally still does something (eventhough you generally don't play it because it will destroy your lead) but Timely reinforcements at that time does nothing (even if you wanted it too do something).
If you are losing and behind on life and creatures, you will generally not mind topdecking this. But it is generally not a solution to your problem. 3 1/1's aren't going to stop that Akroma, Angel of Wrath or most simpler critters. You can chump block some units but it still generally doesn't get rid of the cause of the problem. Something mass removal or any kind of removal / big critter does do.
In other words: this card generally doens't help you win. It just makes you not loose a little bit longer but in multiplayer every round the game goes on your opponents are drawing more cards combined than you, they have more combined mana available, etc, etc so unless you have a long long game plan for surviving all those extra resources of your opponents you shouldn't make the game go on longer than neccesary.
Lastly I would not play this card 4 times in a deck (unless I am playing a 1vs1 tournament and then only after sideboarding against aggro decks). Multiples of this card can be even deader for a long time than a doubly drawn legendary permanent. Yes, both often eventually become usefull but a card that is dead for any amount of time is something I prefer to prevent.
I find it cool that they printed this card because it is a cool card with great flavour and style. It is great in midrange and control decks in 1v1 but in multiplayer I don't think it shines even brighter.
[c]Timely Reinforcements[/c] is a halfway decent card that is being played in top tier standard midrange and control decks to survive against aggro and beatdown decks.In multiplayer there is a greater chance of it giving both goodies but it still has
