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Switch to Forum Live View 6/30/2011 TD: "Ten Mind-Blowing, Head-Turning Bullets on Chandra, the Firebrand"
2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 5:28PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:20PM #2
wilykat
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Old Chandra's ultimate is "probably" better than new Chandra's?  Really?
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:28PM #3
Qmark
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Yay!  Another terrible Chandra.
Can't say I'm at all surprised.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:29PM #4
Mastamune
Date Joined: Oct 4, 2010
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Wow..

I need a playset. She seems very "Jace" in the sense that any deck she's in (so long as it's not creature heavy) is instantly better.  Jace,TMS set the template and if you want to make a good walker, this is how you do it.

She doesn't look overly powerful, but she's sure to have her moments. 

Plus I like her interaction with her phoenix. It's very slick and makes both cards seem even better.  
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:40PM #5
Mastamune
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Jun 29, 2011 -- 9:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Yay!  Another terrible Chandra.
Can't say I'm at all surprised.




Red doesn't have much in the way of "Pie" options. This covers the most basic of them design wise, and wraps it in a nice package. Shes splashable, deals at least 1 damage a turn, can turn one card into two.

In RDW she gives you a turn clock, can help remove chump blocks, help red zone burn and if she makes it that far, finishes the game or explodes blockers.

She isn't bad. She fits her color.  Most of the Walker designs now have been narrow, this chandra is at least splashable.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:42PM #6
Evaders99
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Right casting cost, right abilities... still no JtMS I will certainly be playing 4 in RDW though
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 9:48PM #7
raadface
Date Joined: Feb 18, 2011
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I was expecting to see a rather differnt Chandra, kinda like how Jace does mill, but I think this is just like Chandra Nalaar done right, I think i'm most surpised about the -2 ability to copy a spell. I would have thought that the would have beedn perfect for a U/R walker still seems pretty cool. Her mana cost kinda surprised me though too, 3 colorless and only one of anything. Overall she seems ok, just not as different as i was expecting.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 10:05PM #8
Raedien
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I strongly believe it should be 2RR.

Koth could have been 3R since you really have to play mountains for him  the color costs are implied, letting her be splashable is not cool.

Also, the art is terrible.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 10:05PM #9
KramlmarK
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-2 seems pretty legit, imo. Double-Green Sun Zenith for two primeval titans? Don't mind if I do.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 10:10PM #10
Kensan_Oni
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2005
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This is bull, and Development has thrown up their hands and have gone "We give up. We can't make her good because we are too scared of what her theme is!". I mean seriously, would a Shock have been that bad a +1 ability? Why does Jace get a free 4 turn "I win" ability, and NOT Chandra? What the heck?

Oh, it's because she has a Combo? She gets free birdies back? Phoenix that don't get pumped up like the Vampires do? Because, honestly, relying on a card combo to make a planeswalker actually good is weak.

Yes, you are selling the best ability on the card. A repeatable fork is nice... if you actually would get a chance to repeat with it. I am seriously doubting that I could play this card on turn 4 and have it live long enough to see turn 5. That means I have to wait till I have enough mana around to play this later. Her 1 point of damage and 1 Loyalty token isn't enough. It's just flatly is not enough. Her ultimate is inadequate with 7 toughness being common in the last Block. Sure, it kills a titan, but unless you're on the draw play (I mean play), you're not going to get that 6 loyalty counters.  Oh, assuming it's not a Inferno Titan. Than your just SOL.

Development should be shamed. They have once again snubbed other colors in favor of Blue, and they once again have wasted a slot by being worried about direct damage. This is just crappy. She should have cost 3. There is no reason with her abilities and power that she should have not cost 3.

Someone remind me why we have a planeswalker besides Jace again?
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