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2 years ago ::
Jun 29, 2011 - 11:22AM
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AF specially said they were perfect for a core set, so I'll have to go with him on this one. I don't think the names are that specific, unlike the bounceland cycle which was guild-specific. But obviously something happened between the time he said that and his comments about painland types being undesirable for new players a little more than a year later.That said, under current philosophies it's hard to see just where those shocklands would be printed again.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 29, 2011 - 5:59PM
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Jan 18, 2011
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AF specially said they were perfect for a core set, so I'll have to go with him on this one. I don't think the names are that specific, unlike the bounceland cycle which was guild-specific. But obviously something happened between the time he said that and his comments about painland types being undesirable for new players a little more than a year later.That said, under current philosophies it's hard to see just where those shocklands would be printed again.
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If not core, and if not expansion, then... mini-sets like commander and duel decks?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 4:13AM
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Nov 18, 2003
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They are servicable duals, and I already have a most, but I am rather dissapointed that they did not try a cycle of another future shited land. Horizon Canopy  and Nimbus Maze  are really cool, and could add some new spice to the mix.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 4:18AM
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Remember, the names aren't as important for core sets
True, but having more general names is still better design in something that may go in a core set.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 4:20AM
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Apr 16, 2009
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wow...
M12 is going to get sold to nobody !!
enemy cycle would have been better and would be an insentive to buy m12, now they will go left unsold....
I'm really considering not going to the prerelease because 3/4 of the rares/uncommons are totally crap...and unless you get Chandra you will get a hard time getting you're money's worth.;(
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 3:11PM
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And there's the Creepy Doll  That always follows you It's got a ruined eye That's always open And there's a Creepy Doll That always follows you It's got a pretty mouth To swallow you whole
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 4:20PM
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Mar 27, 2003
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wow...
M12 is going to get sold to nobody !!
enemy cycle would have been better and would be an insentive to buy m12, now they will go left unsold....
I'm really considering not going to the prerelease because 3/4 of the rares/uncommons are totally crap...and unless you get Chandra you will get a hard time getting you're money's worth.;(
Oblivion Ring, Reinforcements, Smallpox, Incinerate, Goblin Grenade, Phoenix, the Sphinx/Demon, etc.
There's plenty of chasable cards in this set.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 5:19PM
#28
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Feb 14, 2010
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i still don't see why they don't make dual lands of all possible combinations with no drawback. for a game that tries to encourage playing multiple colors, they just needlessly make it difficult to do so easily. was it really so terrible back when they did have real duals?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 5:34PM
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Oct 23, 2010
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It's for the best (I know someone's going to give me a hard time about saying this), but it makes usable duels cheap, plain and simple. Wizards has to take liberties into taking their business beyond secondhand retailers to ensure people enjoy and endulge in their profit. The game is virtually unplayable at a constructed level without special lands because of the desparity between the options they create. The more cycles of cheap duels they make, the lower the cost of the average well built deck, the more people who will want to invest and play more heavily. As for keeping enemy duel lands scarce, I suppose for the meantime we can only accept it as a flavorful choice in terms of them being enemy colors forced to interact. Maybe Innistrad will give us something in that regard? Or maybe one of the next premium sets will have Ravnica duels?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2011 - 6:25PM
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I'm willing to bet that this is going to be the last reprint of the cycle for a long time. Just look at the original five walkers... they all got three standard legal printings and then got retired for a new cycle. Here's looking to M13 for something new. Also if we keep being multi-color free (light) until then we could see the shock lands rerprinted in that core set and a return to Rav with ten rare slots freed up.
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deck, or any combination of allied colors.
