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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 8:32PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 9:13PM
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You've been making Magic cards for quite awhile and just realized that what you make is forever. That is sad, but at least, maybe, you will take things seriously enough that you won't need to ban your work in the future. I would have aced the question that Magic cards are forever and I should care about that in my interview, but that one doesn't get asked apparently.
Homeward Path is awesome. I just wish it was a foil and available at a greater frequency of 1 per 500 cards opened at $30 MSRP. Can we add that one to lessons learned too?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 9:29PM
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It's cool you were out here - I've lived in Japan for a year and some odd for work now, and I love it  Magic can be a bit of a challenge... the average player skill is higher than stores in the US by a large margin, and it's difficult to make friends and find a playgroup. It's also basically required that you know every card by heart. That said, people by and large are nice and level-headed, which is cool. I keep a copy of Oracle texts by card # on my smartphone for FNM-level events around Japan, and no store I've been at has complained with me referencing my phone anytime I'm not sure of some specific detail of a card. But yeah, thank goodness for MTGO. It's a little bit of back-home nostalgia to get yelled at for being a lucksack noob in english instead of bowed to politely and thanked in Japanese.  Thanks for the article, and otsukaresama from your long trip. Now let's have some more info about modern!! The poll results don't lie, we all want more!
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 9:37PM
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You've been making Magic cards for quite awhile and just realized that what you make is forever. That is sad, but at least, maybe, you will take things seriously enough that you won't need to ban your work in the future.
Seconded. This is what comes of having too much emphasis on the competitive forms of play, especially Standard and Limited. If you only look at a card from the point of view of a format where the way things operate is something like "Well, everything'll be rotating in two years/three months/whatever," then of course you'll let a lot of things go that you maybe shouldn't.
I voted "yes" on whether I was surprised at the bannings, and "bad" on what I thought of them. Not because I think the effects will be bad or the cards weren't overpowered (they were, and disgustingly so) - but because the bannings come after months of loud, shrill flailing on forums and Twitter and thus give the impression of caving in to empty vessels. They set a bad precedent, and I fully expect similar shrill flailing when the most powerful strategy in Innistrad emerges.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 9:49PM
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I have to agree, the enlightenment being discussed here is... Well frankly I'm a little shocked that this is news. I don't mean any offense, but I assumed that this was obvious.
As for the bannings, all I can say is that the cards should have been mroe extensively tested, and they should have been banned when they were clearly dominating Standard and many people were complaining. Yes, it is unfortunate to have to ban cards, but don't you think it's for the good of the format?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 9:57PM
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I played against other goofy Legacy decks that were actually fun, though. My favorite was a blue-red Phyrexian Dreadnought / Stifle deck that also included Intuition, Goblin Welder, and the exciting New Phyrexia addition of Torpor Orb.
That's a real deck. He may have had a singleton robot in there.
From what I understand, Limited events in Japan are run with Japanese product, but quite a few of the players at Hareruya and elsewhere had English cards in their Constructed decks. I already know most Magic cards, so I can't know what it's like for a Japanese person to run into a significant percentage of English cards at their first Friday Night Magic, but it can't feel good. I'm not sure what can be done about this, but it's something I'm thinking about now.
From what I understand, Limited events in the United States are run with American English product, but quite a few of the players here have Japanese cards in their Constructed decks. I too already know most Magic cards, so I can't know what it's like for a new player to run into a significant percentage of Japanese cards at their first Friday Night Magic. But I makes it makes them feel dumb!
Magic cards are forever
Sands of Time  is a casual and somewhat funny way to combo someone out. It takes a lot of work to make it work. It's not Time Vault and it's not Stasis. Okay, it is Stasis, but it's funnier. Do you regret printing Maralen + Mindlock Orb? Please tell me that you'd still print Mindlock Orb even if someone pointed out the interaction with Maralen.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 10:37PM
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It's interesting how much of draft language is based on simple facial expressions, passings, and the occasional chuckle. I would never try to draft in another language, however, unless I memorized every card in the set. No sense in being unprepared. The idea that cards last forever is a good one, but I don't think one bad combo invalidates the worth two cards have on the game as a whole. I love Protean Hulk  and Flash  individually, even if together they're one of the dumbest combos in Magic. I don't think the worth of Painter's Servant to the game was decreased just because people found a game ending combo with him; he's still a unique and interesting card with plenty of balanced uses. I voted "yes" on whether I was surprised at the bannings, and "bad" on what I thought of them. Not because I think the effects will be bad or the cards weren't overpowered (they were, and disgustingly so) - but because the bannings come after months of loud, shrill flailing on forums and Twitter and thus give the impression of caving in to empty vessels. They set a bad precedent, and I fully expect similar shrill flailing when the most powerful strategy in Innistrad emerges.
There was plenty of "shrill flailing" when Affinity was king, but nobody today complains about those bannings.
Complaining alone cannot get a card banned; otherwise, Jund and Faeries would have been gutted. Cards are only banned when people put their money where their mouth is and stop coming to standard tournaments. That's exactly what happened with the Caw Blade meta.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 23, 2011 - 10:44PM
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Not only that, but there are set points in time when they will ban cards. They discussed banning it a while back, and there was an article about it. Which basically said that the card will be banned and everyone should sell off their copies of it while they still can.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 24, 2011 - 12:45AM
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They need to make an app on iPhone where you look at a card through the phone, and the card is shown translated.
Goblin Artisans - A Magic Design Blog by GDS2 Contestants and Collaborators
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2 years ago ::
Jun 24, 2011 - 1:52AM
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"Let them eat cake."Agree with others that this gives the impression wizards is in an Ivory Tower  . Quite surprised. They have said before they don't really take eternal into consideration, but I always thought this was a conscious choice. That this is a 'relevation'... also indeed the popularity of japanese cards in non-japanese-speaking countries. I do have bad experiences with that, more casual players react badly to them unfortunately, so I've returned mostly to english cards >.> And once again I will say Command Tower  will lessen my enjoyability of magic for ever. Worst card ever made.
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