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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:30PM
#51
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Date Joined:
Mar 12, 2011
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Personally, I don't play Jace so I could care less about that part. I play Mystics so I'm slightly ticked about that. But these latest bannings have me INFURIATED, just on principle alone.
Good going Wizards, you just drove away a customer of over 13 years. Congrats!
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:30PM
#52
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Date Joined:
Aug 13, 2001
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
On another note: Does this mean Mike Flores has to stop blatantly lying to us?
What did he lie about? At most he's been a little selective in presenting metagame information, at least in his latest article. Certainly when he says things like that he has no problem with the current metagame, I see no reason not to believe him. He's part of that minority Aaron talked about if anyone is, that likes a highly skill-testing metagame. Whatever else it may have been, the Caw-Blade dominated environment this announcement lays to rest was certainly that.
Jeff Heikkinen
DCI Rules Advisor since Dec 25, 2011
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:30PM
#53
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Date Joined:
Jun 10, 2010
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I applaud the move and it's good hearing the thought behind the bannings, even if a lot of what was said was just repeating what everyone has been saying for months. I also pretty much agree with almost everything Dxfiler said about the format and why I personally am not attending FNMs anymore and have no desire for tournament standard. I do have some points I'd like to be answered though: 1. So R&D is fine with a one-deck format? I understand they do listen to their fanbase but man, they really don't mind if the format is that stagnant? That can't be good. 2. I understood the angle wizards took for allowing SFM only in the event deck form, but man, is that ugly and inelegant. Judges will have to have a copy of the deck onhand for confirmation? 3. Maybe I missed it, but the entire "Jace feels like a $400 barrier to entry to standard" arguement wasn't even mentioned, nor a commitment to avoid making $100 cards again. I understand wizards doesn't want to control the secondary market, but didn't they just do that by selling the only allowed SFM deck in standard? I never really understood WotC's stance on this issue. One reason they don't like banning cards is because of how much players have spent in aquiring the cardboard, yet they claim that the secondary market doesn't affect their decisions, yet they have a restricted list to help the secondary value of older, rare cards. Can someone clear this up for me? 4. I completely understood the theory of why they printed Jace 2.0 and how they were planning on bringing blue back and hypercharging zendikar to be dominant even with SoM and kind of agree with it... but the execution was terrible. They claim that they like doing new and exciting things on cards that have never been done before... but everything on Jace 2.0 except the ultimate was on another card before! Brainstorm is restricted in other formats... how is a repeatable FREE brainstorm every turn ok? I remember reading awhile ago (from MaRo maybe?) that the fateseal ability can be very powerful and they have to be careful about where to put it... Thoughpicker Witch  must have a sacrificed creature and a mana cost for activation, and is on a flimsy 1/1! On Jace it gains loyalty! Why was it ok to print such a broad cover-all card for all blue decks to use? SFM was actually pretty fun to play with and I really think it would still be fine and non-bannable by any means if only it didn't have the anti-counter 2 mana instant equipment into play ability tacked on. Too much. Also, the two swords weren't good in testing? You're for real...and you still made Batterskull  more powerful? whaaaaaaat? The tutoring wasn't so bad, but why wasn't SFM adjusted when the other ability was tacked on? 5. Lastly, I'm a little concerned with the latest round of 'answers' that were printed for Jace. What kind of playtesting do you do to make sure the answers can be effective in the meta and not simply hated out by the best deck they're meant to combat? I remember LaPille's article promising the NPH standard would be much, much different and I swore to actually try standard again once it was released. There was a little change, but not the dramatic change Tom envisioned. Maybe I'll be able to enjoy that change now since the meta equilizers were ineffective and only a ban could solve the issue. I am looking forward to July's standard - it's great news for me as a player and lover of a diverse meta!
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:30PM
#54
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Date Joined:
Dec 22, 2010
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I feel like this was a waste of time this close to the rotation. I am also perturbed and feel cheated because of the War of Attrition deck. I think rather than just allowing the event deck unmodified they should have just restricted Stoneforge to 2 per deck. That would have been much more elagent and keep people from feeling cheated after buying the event deck. I don't really play legacy or vintage so stoneforges value in those formats is somewhat lost on me.
The other thing about stoneforge is that it is a creature and creatures are a lot easier to deal with. I have never had much issues up against stoneforge by itself before.
JTMS on the other hand is very difficult to deal with and I can understand it needing to go. Though I am sure people out there with the card that worked hard to get them will be sad and angry.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:31PM
#55
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Date Joined:
Feb 27, 2007
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Poor Jace. :P Poor Stoneforge :P
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:33PM
#56
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Date Joined:
Mar 25, 2007
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I have foil playsets of both and I'm completly fine with this. Standard has been incredibly stale as of late. I had tried multiple Tezz, UG Vengivine, and Primeval Titan builds, and you know what I have been playing for the past 2 months? Cawblade. Why? Because every deck became better with the addition of Jace. All I have to say is watch out for Valakut.
Granted I mostly play Legacy and now won't have to swap the cards between T2 & T1.5 decks. By the way you should all play more Legacy. This is where the real Magic is beening played.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:35PM
#57
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I would have preferred an emergency ban but I knew it wouldn't happen.
I agree that the Event Deck rule makes sense in theory but viscerally fells odd. All in all I agree with it though.
It will be hilarious, however, if pissed-off top tier players start showing up to tournaments packing War of Attrition as a protest action.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:39PM
#58
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2007
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Note how many times "We changed this late in the development phase" has corresponded with something being banned or just flat out ridiculously powerful. For example: Skullclamp  , Arcbound Ravager  , Disciple of the Vault  , Umezawa's Jitte  , and now Jace the Mind Sculptor  , Stoneforge Mystic  , and Batterskull . STOP DOING THIS YOU IDIOTS. YOU KEEP HITTING YOURSELF.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:47PM
#59
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Date Joined:
Mar 12, 2011
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So no one else is upset with the stunt Wizards just pulled to drive sales?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 19, 2011 - 10:49PM
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So no one else is upset with the stunt Wizards just pulled to drive sales?
What stunt? 
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
--Erin McKean, Redefining the Dictionary
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