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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 5:24PM #31
Haze01
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An awesome announcement.  I've already been pumped about the Commander decks, and having Sol Rings in them is really cool!

However, the flavour text on it feels cheapened.  It was perfect on the Mythic Rare "From the Vaults: Relics" reprint.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 5:40PM #32
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I guess I'm alone in the camp of people who don't like Sol Ring.

It's a strong card, I get that.

I'm against cards that are supposed to be "auto-include." I play Commander/Singleton because I like the variance of having all kinds of different decks. I want to play 100 different cards, not 90 cards + the 10 cards everyone else is also playing and call you stupid if you don't. It's also one of those cards that can swing games straight out of the gates. And I'm not just talking about the five player game where one player gets their first turn ring. What if it's a five player game and you're the one person who DIDN'T?

That said I'm glad that if it's going to be there it's going to be easy enough to get, but still. Not good for the game in my opinion.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 5:52PM #33
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Preordered all 5 decks the second I saw this.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 7:35PM #34
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news that made my day
You'll forget you ever read this the minute you look away.

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Aug 17, 2011 -- 10:58PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 17, 2011 -- 6:10PM, Uhhsam wrote:

there is nothing "epic" about a turn one victory.  ever.

or really any magic game, for that matter.



So this one time, I wanted to play a game of Magic with my friend, but he was in another country and neither of us had Magic Online. I hitchhiked my way to the coast, barely fending off hungry wildlife when I couldn't get a ride, nearly dying of thirst crossing deserts, and posoning myself half to death foraging for food. At one point, I was taken hostage by a group of kidnappers, only managing to escape after a week of careful planning thanks to careful application of a rusty spoon.

Once I reached the coast, I had no money to buy a ticket across the ocean, so I built a boat using my own two hands, and spent months sailing across the waves, nearly losing my deck as I swam to the shore of a desert island in a storm after being capsized by an enormous wave. Nearly delusional after so long with no human contact (the notches I cut in the single tree to tell time had long since felled the thing) I was eventually rescued by a passing ship, where I was taken aboard as a crew member.

We sailed around the world, seeing many exotic places and having great adventures, before we finally arrived at my friend's country.  Once more I stumbled across a desolate landscape, riding on train or car when I could, and going on foot when I could not. Eventually, weary to the bone, seven years after I started my journey, I arrived at my friend's house, clutching my well-worn and weathered deck to my chest. We shuffled up our decks, I won the roll. Gleefully, I laid down my cards.

Black Lotus . My friend looked quizzically at me, wondering what I was about to do. After so long, he no longer knew what deck I had brought with me to this game.

Flash . A knowing smile appears on my friend's face as the knowledge slowly returns to him.

Protean Hulk .

My friend extends his hand, knowing the game is over before it even started. And finally, after so many trials, the sweet taste of victory is mine.



Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:57PM, jstorrie wrote:

Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:47PM, hahapotatoes wrote:

So no one else is upset with the stunt Wizards just pulled to drive sales?


Drive sales of what? Non-Jace, non-Mystic cards? I'm pretty sure people already own more than eight Magic cards. If you don't, I feel for you. Maybe you can trade those Stoneforge Mystics, which are still quite valuable, for some.


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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 9:07PM #35
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Jun 1, 2011 -- 4:26PM, WarpGhost wrote:

Good to see Wizards is exercising their right to reprint unreserved cards...



Couldn't agree more. The most beautiful thing I've read in these forums all day. Keep it up Wizards



   
   
   

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 10:06PM #36
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Good.  Now start reprinting relevant unreserved cards.
Sol Ring is an excellent card, but the only place it's important is Vintage.  Reprinting Force of Will or Sinkhole would be far more meaningful.


Hell, why not evade R&D being run over by a bus , if we're digging into UnReserved?
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 10:27PM #37
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Jun 1, 2011 -- 10:06PM, Qmark wrote:

Good.  Now start reprinting relevant unreserved cards.
Sol Ring is an excellent card, but the only place it's important is Vintage.  Reprinting Force of Will or Sinkhole would be far more meaningful.


Hell, why not evade R&D being run over by a bus , if we're digging into UnReserved?



You know these are commander decks, right?  They aren't the "lets reprint stuff for legacy" decks.  Sol ring is an EDH staple, so it's relevant to these decks.  Sinkhole is pretty much irrelevant to EDH, and Force of Will is debatable (mostly 1v1).

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2011 - 11:18PM #38
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"The rest of us" are damn happy to get them however we get them.
I already have my playsets of Sinkholes, but I certainly wouldn't mind everyone else getting a handfull.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 02, 2011 - 9:23AM #39
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Jun 1, 2011 -- 10:06PM, Qmark wrote:

Good.  Now start reprinting relevant unreserved cards.
Sol Ring is an excellent card, but the only place it's important is Vintage.  Reprinting Force of Will or Sinkhole would be far more meaningful.


Hell, why not evade R&D being run over by a bus , if we're digging into UnReserved?




I get your point, but this wasn't a reprint with the intention of underhandedly adding to the supply of an expensive legacy card. For once they're being honest about knowing the secondary market value of a card, and its staple quality. This was all about EDH.

Frankly, considering the overwhelmingly positive response (not to mention how rare it is that a move they make earns such an overwhelmingly positive response), I think this means we'll be seeing a lot more reprints designed to address secondary market prices.

Yeah, you're probably thinking "no **** sherlock, people want to be able to play with their cards", but this is incontrovertible proof for them that reprints like that are what the player community wants. 

You'll forget you ever read this the minute you look away.

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Aug 17, 2011 -- 10:58PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 17, 2011 -- 6:10PM, Uhhsam wrote:

there is nothing "epic" about a turn one victory.  ever.

or really any magic game, for that matter.



So this one time, I wanted to play a game of Magic with my friend, but he was in another country and neither of us had Magic Online. I hitchhiked my way to the coast, barely fending off hungry wildlife when I couldn't get a ride, nearly dying of thirst crossing deserts, and posoning myself half to death foraging for food. At one point, I was taken hostage by a group of kidnappers, only managing to escape after a week of careful planning thanks to careful application of a rusty spoon.

Once I reached the coast, I had no money to buy a ticket across the ocean, so I built a boat using my own two hands, and spent months sailing across the waves, nearly losing my deck as I swam to the shore of a desert island in a storm after being capsized by an enormous wave. Nearly delusional after so long with no human contact (the notches I cut in the single tree to tell time had long since felled the thing) I was eventually rescued by a passing ship, where I was taken aboard as a crew member.

We sailed around the world, seeing many exotic places and having great adventures, before we finally arrived at my friend's country.  Once more I stumbled across a desolate landscape, riding on train or car when I could, and going on foot when I could not. Eventually, weary to the bone, seven years after I started my journey, I arrived at my friend's house, clutching my well-worn and weathered deck to my chest. We shuffled up our decks, I won the roll. Gleefully, I laid down my cards.

Black Lotus . My friend looked quizzically at me, wondering what I was about to do. After so long, he no longer knew what deck I had brought with me to this game.

Flash . A knowing smile appears on my friend's face as the knowledge slowly returns to him.

Protean Hulk .

My friend extends his hand, knowing the game is over before it even started. And finally, after so many trials, the sweet taste of victory is mine.



Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:57PM, jstorrie wrote:

Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:47PM, hahapotatoes wrote:

So no one else is upset with the stunt Wizards just pulled to drive sales?


Drive sales of what? Non-Jace, non-Mystic cards? I'm pretty sure people already own more than eight Magic cards. If you don't, I feel for you. Maybe you can trade those Stoneforge Mystics, which are still quite valuable, for some.


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2 years ago  ::  Jun 02, 2011 - 1:08PM #40
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Rhox War Monk

Another "reward" card for playing in a standard tournament that is 100% useless in said tournament.

FNM prize cards are lame. 
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