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2 years ago ::
May 04, 2011 - 2:30PM
#11
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@Twilightsown:
Anyone that works with websites knows that Jacob didn't write today's article last night. It was sent in to be edited etc. so how is he supposed to know what splinter twin will be priced at when it finally gets published today? Not only that, but Jacob wrote about the splinter twin combo in last week's article. Why should it matter what it's worth today when he told you a week ago about it? In fact, if you had picked them up when he first said something, you'd be thanking him today when you traded them for the fetchlands to use in place of the evolving wilds for this deck.
In a standard environment where many decks run tons of $30+ cards, Jacob shows decks that can compete for a lot less. That is what this article series is. It isn't a continuation of Ben's work. Quite frankly, it is entirely unreasonable to think that when one writer leaves a column, the next writer is supposed to parrot the previous guy's style. I didn't read Ben's stuff because it wasn't very useful to me. I don't care about the things you specifically want to see. Jacob's series is one of the few on this site I read anymore. When Jacob leaves, maybe the next guy will grab your attention and lose mine. I won't write a novel about it.
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2 years ago ::
May 04, 2011 - 3:15PM
#12
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Date Joined:
Nov 28, 2007
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These are the kind of responses I was looking for. Thanks 12three45 and LeoRiser. Gave me plenty to think about in regards to the way I looked at the article. I think the problem I was seeing was I was coming at it from to much of a johnny/timmy point of view because Its what I expect when I come to a budget column, but thats not fair to impose that view on anyone whos writing the articles. And as for it being a novel, sometimes I get writing and just can't stop =D
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2 years ago ::
May 04, 2011 - 3:55PM
#13
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2009
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@Twilightsown: I appreciate that you, unlike some whiners I have seen in the BoaB threads over the weeks, can accept the criticism of your post when you were told to try a different perspective. I'm predominantly a Johnny player myself with a strong splash of Spike, so I can see how the articles can be a bit off-putting to some people. It took me a bit to realize just how much cheaper he is working his decks to be compared to the decks that are running Mind Sculptors and the like. If everyone would accept that this isn't a Timmy/Johnny column and use it as a springboard for a good tournament deck or as inspiration for a good casual deck (My Master Transmuter toolbox being an example: the only card in common with his Transmuter builds is the Transmuter) then this thread would be able to have much more productive discussions. Now, in the spirit of those discussions, what does everyone think of Staggershock  ? I can understand his hesitance to run it in the face of the Exarch, but I personally believe that it still has plenty of home in the deck.
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2 years ago ::
May 04, 2011 - 7:39PM
#14
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2007
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I ran Pyrocension two weeks ago at a local FNM finishing in the money. It was my first time playing the deck and it did exactly what I wanted it to do, though not against who I wanted.
I ran something along the following:
4 Bolt
4 Burst
4 Arc Trail
4 Slagstorm
4 Mana Leak
4 Pyromancer's Ascension
4 Preordain
4 See Beyond
4 Call to Mind
4 Into the Roil
4 Scalding Tarn
8 Mountain
8 Island
Sideboard:
3 Steel Sabotage
4 Spell Pierce
4 Dispel
4 Pyroclasm
I defeated a decent Goblin deck, a bad Mono-White weenie deck, a good G/W Quest/Vengevine deck and lost to my own play errors/nuts draws against a mono-white Quest deck (my opponent wasn't very good, the loss was my fault, it was my first round with a deck I'd never played before). I also lost to a mono-Black infect deck I helped a friend build, but I saw none of my bounce spells for his Crusader/Piston Sledge, it happens.
While playing the deck I wanted more bounce for sure, Into the Roil was an absolute house for me. I do believe the deck gets better with Gitaxian probe.
I think the deck is in a good spot for the current meta as it can fight with Caw-Blade and Valakut with careful play and should have a good run against various aggro decks IMO. The Blade and Kut matchups may not be easy though.
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2 years ago ::
May 10, 2011 - 2:15PM
#15
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Date Joined:
Jan 13, 2010
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If any one is looking for a new combo from the new set you should try Bloodchief Ascension and Mindcrank. With an active Bloodchief any damage or card dieing is lethal. I came up with this rough deck list using mostly the article posted back in November. Anyways, I think it's a neat combo and would enjoy seeing a Building on a Budget about it.
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
8 Mountain
10 Swamp
4 Goblin Guide
4 Pulse Tracker
4 Vampire Lacerator
4 Slavering Nulls
1 Blind Zealot
4 Mindcrank
4 Bloodchief Ascension
4 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Staggershock
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2 years ago ::
May 10, 2011 - 2:20PM
#16
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If any one is looking for a new combo from the new set you should try Bloodchief Ascension and Mindcrank. With an active Bloodchief any damage or card dieing is lethal. I came up with this rough deck list using mostly the article posted back in November. Anyways, I think it's a neat combo and enjoying seeing a Building on a Budget about it.
The combo was one of many featured in the From the Lab article "Compleat Combos" from May 5. Good take on it though.
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2011 - 3:02PM
#17
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Date Joined:
Jun 28, 2010
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If any one is looking for a new combo from the new set you should try Bloodchief Ascension and Mindcrank. With an active Bloodchief any damage or card dieing is lethal. I came up with this rough deck list using mostly the article posted back in November. Anyways, I think it's a neat combo and enjoying seeing a Building on a Budget about it.
The combo was one of many featured in the From the Lab article "Compleat Combos" from May 5. Good take on it though.
Thing is the Bloodchief combo has already been around with archive trap and no one has been using it. I dont this this combo will consistantly work without tutors or card draw. Theres no room for Dark Tutelage or anything so idk if it will work
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 4:43PM
#18
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Date Joined:
Jun 27, 2011
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ok ive got a question. in what situation would you sideboard in the deceiver twin combo? I know when it would be obvious to side in the trap combo (whenever they are searching) but my biggest question here is this....what on earth would you take out? This is always my hardest problem with sideboarding, chosing what to board out. Escpecially in a deck like pyromancer ascension, because almost every card is a gear in a very well oiled clock that makes the deck tick like it should....any advice fellas?
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1 year ago ::
Dec 28, 2011 - 7:57PM
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Date Joined:
Dec 28, 2011
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@Massakre: Sideboarding is situational and the answer depends on what deck you are facing. It also depends on what is least useful for you in the matchup, as not all decks that focus on a certain card are the same (ex. different ascention decks in this thread). I don't have a lot of experience playing blue, but i'd board out the 3 copies of Foresee and one of something else for the exarchs. I feel matching the mana cost of what goes out with what goes in is important; in my example, the exarchs are slightly cheaper. There are other cards that peek at your library and let you draw cards. I would not board out any of the burn, bounce or cancel cards as these are essential whatever matchup you play.
@LeoRiser and 12three45: Thanks for your answers to Twilightsown. I had similar feelings about this article and would be just as open to criticism.
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