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2 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2011 - 1:05PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 9:23PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 20, 2002
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"My team consisted of myself, Mark Gottlieb and Mark Globus (the very first all-Mark design team)."
The logician in me objects: Unglued came first.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 9:47PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 15, 2010
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The dragon used to be your spoiler card didn't it?
I feel bad for all of you...
;_;
Stop using "IMO" in sentences that aren't opinion. If you don't think a deck will ever be tier 1, that's great - but it's not an opinion. It's a prediction of the future. I identify as neither male nor female. You may refer to me with either gender pronoun or the singular they, whichever suits you best. ^_^ Re: Dismember  Everybody knows that having your awesome creatures killed before they can do anything is frustrating, but the Red mage in me doesn't seem to understand why it's so bad when his creatures spontaneously combust into Flame Javelin  s and make his opponent discard something at the same time.
Currently Working On:
   Self-Mill (Standard)
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 9:47PM
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Date Joined:
May 17, 2009
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Its a shame that you had to reveal the full spoiler all at once like this, thanks to someone leaking it all over the internet. I always look forward to the Spoiler Week(s).
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 10:08PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 26, 2006
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It was thrilling to imagine whether you would go on a regular preview season as if nothing ever happened or if you were going all-in and change the focus of this previews. It's nice to see you moving on and showing the full spoiler and it is quite bold. The article looks extra cautious and conservative about expressing any personal doubts or concerns but it's understandable, since scaring players away when the set isn't even available yet could be suicide. Anyway, I guess writers will have to step up and make some other bold statements to leave the players convinced and wanting to buy.
IMO, New Phyrexia looks neat but for the present it won't help Standard at all to get out from the immense hole it is actually stuck in. Let's hope that once the shadow of Zendikar and Jace disappears, this block has a chance to shine.
I guess there will be a lot of time to discuss the details but anyway, I feel there should have been more double and triple Phyrexian mana costed cards. A single one is all nice to showcase some simple executions ala Mental Misstep, but overall, too much single phy mana cards feel as you were handicapping yourself everytime you actually pay the color. At least that's how Spikes feel, maybe noobs are going to kneejerk at a card whose feature is to pay life. Anyway, having a vision beyond how a novice player would see the card is a big step forward these days, so congratulations for it. I really hope you don't end regretting this set just like Planar Chaos.
If Limited gets in the way of printing good Constructed cards...
Screw limited
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 10:20PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 11, 2005
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I understand why they did the whole set, but I for one had resisted looking at it, wanting the reveal to occur as I like it -- ala one card at a time w/ articles. So I'm a little disappointed they didn't just say "Hey, its been spoiled... but if you want the slow roll that's what we are going to do." I am probably the minority of people who wanted that, so I understand... but it still makes me sad.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 10:51PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 29, 2007
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Wow! They officially spoiled the whole set at once. I seriously thought they were going to play dumb and write the same old previews.
For those of you who don't know.
1) Massive leak on the Internet.
2) Everyone already has (had) full scans of every card, among those who want them.
3) Legacy players have already changed their decks for Mental Misstep.
4) The P1P1 picks have been debated.
5) Karn is liberated, and the novel was spoiled.
6) Much whining about how Despise is the only viable Jace answer, NPH changes nothing, etc.
Actually, #5 was already spoiled because someone stole a large pile of Japanese rares, scanned them, and translated them. And Karn was in that pile. (Oh, #7 - Much whining from Vorthoses who insisted that it was impossible for Karn to be a PW again, even after seeing his card. But that was sooo last February.)
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 11:03PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2004
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I always assumed Sarcomyte Myr was from some other world that had myr and fleshificers, maybe a Frankenstein World or the like - the flavor text did not say Phyrexia to me, though admittedly I never thought of the possibility.
I'm sad that they decided that cards couldn't have both colored and phybrid mana; I think that would have been a good thing to do for a few of the more boring cards (like the green artifact creature), since it would have helped with the whole colorblindness issue some folks have had.
And for the record, I'm sure that better executions for Esper could have been found, though I recognize that they didn't have infinite time to look for them. But overall I think colored artifacts in Esper were a failure, both because they didn't connect to the rest of the set and because, apart from looking a little weird (a lot weird with the art of esper, but otherwise only a little), they really aren't that interesting. I know at least once I wrote up a very satisfactory alternate direction for Esper design, but I can't find it in my notes at the moment.
I wish Mark would elaborate more on why the "twosee" creatures failed. I think they would have worked just fine myself:
Llanowar Myr
Artifact Creature - Myr, {2/G}, 1/1
TAP: Add G to your mana pool
Rodney of Ruin
Artifact Creature - Wizard, 2{2/R}, 0/2
TAP: Rodney of Ruin deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Skinwingdrake
Artifact Creature - Drake, {2/U}{2/U}, 2/2
Flying
(Could be white instead but at this point I really don't see why blue couldn't be "pushed" a little creature-wise to come even with other colors; it would force people to actually use creatures in blue, which were never the part of the color they were breaking.)
Wall of Porcelain
Artifact Creature - Wall, {2/W}W, 2/4
Defender
Necromech Demon
Artifact Creature - Demon, 3{2/B}{2/B}{2/B}, 7/7
Flying, trample.
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice an artifact and a creature. Lose life equal to the lower converted mana cost among permanents sacrificed this way.
My New Phyrexia Writing CreditsMy M12 Writing CreditsAs far as the benefit of the rest of Magic is concerned, gold cards in Legends were executed perfectly. They got all the excitement a designer could hope out of a splashy new mechanic without using up any of the valuable design space. Truly amazing.
--Aaron Forsythe's Random Card Comment on Kei Takahashi 
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 11:14PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2009
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Yeah, I'm not too thrilled that the entire set got spoiled all at once. I don't think it's the end of the world, but it is a bit of a shame.
I don't know how the leak occurred, but I bet it has to do with the printing schedule. Once you've called up your factories and they've started production, the resulting cards go through a lot of hands, and the chance of a leak increases greatly.
I think the solution is for Wizards to start previewing cards earlier and faster. If we'd had half the set previewed over the past two weeks, at something like five cards a day, I wouldn't care too much if the rest of it got suddenly spoiled.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2011 - 11:18PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 29, 2009
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I am very curious as to what Mechanic X could have been. The fact that it was difficult to implement from a rules perspective and that it was in a areas "that really haven't been messed with" really intrigues me. I hope that if it show up in a future set that Mark will notify us.
I would kill for a hint.
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