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2 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2011 - 5:20PM
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Date Joined:
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2011 - 9:17PM
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hindering touch is a great way to blow out the mirror if they dont go infinite, and instead, just cast a bunch of copies to bounce your board. Its also decent against a slow TPPS draw
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2 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2011 - 9:29PM
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this is one of the reasons pauper is a horrible tournament format. its just incredibly broken with the best decks being the 2 storm flavors. And they both cost 70ish tics
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2 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2011 - 10:57PM
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Feb 15, 2009
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Pauper could use a B&R look. Either Cranial Plating should be unbanned, or Frantic Search, Cloud of Faeries, and Lotus Petal should get the axe. It's getting stale, and midrange decks are basically unplayable.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 3:23AM
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Yet again one of the most lazy articles I have ever read. Its not even building on a budget its common week and the writer chooses the most expensive pauper deck. I have to wonder if thats because he is too lazy to bother looking at the price of cards or if its a deliberate attempt to mock anyone reading the articles. I barely read this any more I just like pauper so thought I would check it out. What an utter waste of time.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 3:59AM
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I'm afraid I have to agree here. Certainly, I've played my share of storm decks in Pauper (although usually grapeshot-based) so I can't throw too many stones, but seriously. Just because it's made of commons, sadly, doesn't mean it's a budget deck when in paper the commons are TEN YEARS OLD, and online they're sought after all out of proportion to the amount of set available.
I don't dislike JvL's decks, but he needs a deck-building column that isn't "Building on a Budget". When the wacky actually-Johnny decks in From the Lab can average less expensive than BoaB (and that's WITH the full use of rares and hard to find cards) half of the entire purpose of the column is just a joke.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 5:49AM
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- Jawsome UnCon Prizewinner
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I haven't played Pauper in a while (longer than I would like) and I admit to being confused that a deck that needed Familiars could do that well. In older Pauper formats, any permanent enablers like that would be killed on sight, plus people would play land destruction to take out bounce lands.
However, I think Jacob captured very well why this deck actually works - Cloud of Faeries, Snap, and particularly Frantic Search are all more recent printings that give this deck a huge boost.
I've been watching the Pauper decks of the week and it's a pretty consistent TEPS, Temporal Fissure, Burn, U/B, and Black metagame for a while now. If the top two decks are Storm combo, I'd actually expect to see the rebirth of U/G aggro-control. It's interesting that this hasn't happened yet in the format, maybe Wild Mongrel plus Mana Leak just isn't good enough any more.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 6:25AM
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Wow, he literally just copied one of the most popular pauper decks, card for card, for Boab. Then he netdecked the outdated version of its sideboard. Very innovative lmao ...what an insult to Pauper players. Come up with something original. His decks on Pauper really bother me, either he posts Pauper lists that are actually unviable in the Pauper meta or he copies the most popular Pauper decks, card-for-card. He clearly doesn't understand the Pauper format that well, certainly not as well as the best Pauper players, so stop writing lazy articles regarding a format you have little familiarity with.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 6:29AM
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Aug 14, 2003
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Conclusion: Mulldrifter  s eat goldfish for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 6:31AM
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I haven't played Pauper in a while (longer than I would like) and I admit to being confused that a deck that needed Familiars could do that well. In older Pauper formats, any permanent enablers like that would be killed on sight, plus people would play land destruction to take out bounce lands.
However, I think Jacob captured very well why this deck actually works - Cloud of Faeries, Snap, and particularly Frantic Search are all more recent printings that give this deck a huge boost.
I've been watching the Pauper decks of the week and it's a pretty consistent TEPS, Temporal Fissure, Burn, U/B, and Black metagame for a while now. If the top two decks are Storm combo, I'd actually expect to see the rebirth of U/G aggro-control. It's interesting that this hasn't happened yet in the format, maybe Wild Mongrel plus Mana Leak just isn't good enough any more.
You are partially correct, I think. This deck is actually relatively easy to hate out, you just need to kill the familiars and their bounce lands. Anything with decent removal and LD (you need both) will take the legs out of the combo and leave the deck fizzling out...which is why URb Post beats it pretty handily. Monogreen Post does pretty well against it too...really anything with LD does well against it. Red beats it pretty much 100% of the time maindeck, which is why the entirety of the board is dedicated to beating Goblins and Burn. Of course, this leaves it vulnerable to Stompy and Infect, considering those decks goldfish turn 4 and Familiar Storm runs 0 removal. Also, this really hasn't been brought up too much, but anything with Shroud will be difficult for the deck to deal with. I've seen it actually have problems against GW cloak.
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