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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 5:38PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's The Week That Was, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:10PM
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Very exciting, I'm looking forward to getting to know more about the changes to the pro player's club structure. Also Worlds-like PTs where you get to play all the rounds sounds fun =)
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:15PM
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The guy who thinks LGS's can handle the volume of a regional pre-release has never stepped foot in a LGS.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:34PM
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Does this mean we will have to have prereleases in stores, with less product. Because, at least here (DC/Maryland area), there aren't exactly a ton of stores that would all be hosting prereleases if we didn't have on big one. It would just mean we would get 100+ people at an in-store event, which from experience, is pretty miserable.
On the other hand, more GPs is awesome.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:34PM
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These changes make a some sense to me. My biggest question is about the PT. Why would you want to keep playing if you are out of contention? Will the prize structure change at all?
Hopefully the Pro Tour will be linked to a GP so you can play in one either the weekend prior or during the week and then play in the GP on the weekend in the same city.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:37PM
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These changes make a some sense to me. My biggest question is about the PT. Why would you want to keep playing if you are out of contention? Will the prize structure change at all?
Hopefully the Pro Tour will be linked to a GP so you can play in one either the weekend prior or during the week and then play in the GP on the weekend in the same city.
I don't know how the exact cutoff worked previously, but I think if you were X-3 at the end of day 1, you wouldn't make day 2. But by going X-3, if you win out Day 2, you have a good chance of making top 16 and maybe even sneaking into top 8.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 9:59PM
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Apr 14, 2011
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I don't know how the exact cutoff worked previously, but I think if you were X-3 at the end of day 1, you wouldn't make day 2. But by going X-3, if you win out Day 2, you have a good chance of making top 16 and maybe even sneaking into top 8.
Say you did well in constructed, but you bombed in draft and now youre X-4. Previously you could drop and there were tons of side events and things to do, if your friends were still in the main event. Now, nothing.
For name players like LSV that's no issue, but for local players who Q for a Pro Tour only now and again and never board the train that's a major bummer.
The solution is obviously to pair the smaller, private PT with a GP. That way all the players and coverage people are already in town. You could play the event over a couple of days during the week and broadcast the top 8 either during primetime once people get home from work/school or on the sunday after the GP was done.
Even if the PT was the weekend before, as long as it's in the same town you could make a trip out of it.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 10:46PM
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As someone with no desire to play in a Pro Tour but who loves watching the coverage for them, I enthusiastically support the plan for better coverage. The burden's on them to actually do it now, of course. We plan on holding the same number of Pro Tour-style events in 2012 as we did in 2011.
(emphasis added)
Anyone else consider that an interesting bit of phrasing?
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 10:55PM
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In 2011 we had Magic Weekends that included Grand Prix's, 100's of side events, artists, etc., with the Pro Tour event. For the 2012 Pro Tours, they are going to the opposite extreme. You can't even watch it in person if you happen to live near by.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 14, 2011 - 11:00PM
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Even if the PT was the weekend before, as long as it's in the same town you could make a trip out of it.
Depends on the philosophy about locations. Since the "Pro Tour-style events" are not going to be open to the public, it doesn't really matter where they take place. I suspect they will choose a location that is the least expensive.
Does Wizards have a meeting room on site in Renton that's large enough for 300-400 players? Maybe they will all be held locally. That would certainly cut down on travel expenses for event staff. And, if a large enough percentage of the players are from the USA, it could save them some on international travel.
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