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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2011 - 6:16PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Wizards Asks, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2011 - 9:08PM #2
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A simple ratio of the number of colored mana symbols of each color, fudged by how quickly I need two mana of any given color.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2011 - 9:24PM #3
krumtheslow
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I find a ratio is my starting point, and I will adjust that by how many double mana symbols I have and how early I need to play them to be effective.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2011 - 9:25PM #4
Octhilias
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I used to calculate ratios of mana symbols, but lately I've just been going with my gut. I've played a lot of Limited, and have gotten a pretty good "feel" for how many lands I'll need in a deck. Some of it comes from mana symbols, some of it comes from curve, and some of it even comes from pure superstition. (I typically play 2-color decks for this same reason; almost always with a splash in Sealed)

Most of the time, I'll play 16-18 lands, depending on how many bombs I've got, and usually split the lands pretty evenly.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2011 - 11:10PM #5
Vlad74205
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Most of my decks get 20 or 21 lands. I look at the ratio for a general idea of where I want the lands at. I then look to see if I can get any or all of the colorless lands I want in while still meeting the needs of the deck.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 4:38AM #6
GreenBuster
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I look at all the colored cards I am planning on using and divide them into piles based on color.  I make a rough estimate on how many lands I need by how many are in each pile.  I then take into account all the double mana cards.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 5:01AM #7
holepercent
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pull out all the cards that require multiple coloured mana, then the early drops and work from there. starting with 18 lands, removing a land for every 2 non-land mana source down to 15 lands. kind of comes with playing plenty of sealed..
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 5:42AM #8
keiyakins
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Apr 11, 2011 -- 11:10PM, Vlad74205 wrote:

Most of my decks get 20 or 21 lands. I look at the ratio for a general idea of where I want the lands at. I then look to see if I can get any or all of the colorless lands I want in while still meeting the needs of the deck.



Half your deck? Isn't that a bit extreme?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 3:22PM #9
Xilinoc
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Usually, I'd look at the set's cards in advance, figure out which colors to go with, and then work out a land ratio after I get the cards.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2011 - 5:07PM #10
captain_cornpops
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My initial build of a deck always starts out with 40% land (or, 24 lands in a 60 card deck). I then playtest the deck a few times and add/remove as needed. In one deck, for instance, I started out with 12 Swamps and 12 Forest. After tests, I had it down to 10 Swamps, and 8 Forest and was getting pretty decent draws.
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