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Magic: The Gathering Rules Q&A are artifact tokens considerd artifact spells??
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Flag Iceking7 April 6, 2011 3:02 PM PDT
just curios on the artifact tokens and artifact spells and if the artifact tokens are the artifact spells.
Flag Studoku April 6, 2011 3:04 PM PDT
Putting a token onto the battlefield is not casting a spell.
Flag cyphern April 6, 2011 3:06 PM PDT

Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:02PM, Iceking7 wrote:

just curios on the artifact tokens and artifact spells and if the artifact tokens are the artifact spells.


A spell is a card on the stack, or a copy of a spell. For example, when you cast Myr Battlesphere , you move that piece of cardboard from your hand to the stack, and for now it is an "artifact spell". Then, everyone gets a chance to respond . Assuming there are no responses, myr battlesphere now resolves and moves from the stack to the battlefield. Since it is now on the battlefield, it is no longer an artifact spell (rather, it is just an "artifact"). 

At this point, myr battlesphere's ability triggers, and that triggered ability gets put on the stack. Abilities aren't spells though, so this ability is not an "artifact spell". When the ability resolves, it creates 4 1/1 colorless myr artifact creature tokens on the battlefield. Since these tokens were never on the stack (they were created already on the battlefield), they were never "artifact spells".

Flag Iceking7 April 6, 2011 3:07 PM PDT
now what exactly is considerd an artifact spell?
Flag Iceking7 April 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT
thank you
Flag Enigma256 April 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT
depending on where a card is it is considered different things.
let's take Myr Battlesphere as an example

in your hand/library/graveyard and also exile it is an Artifact Creature Card
on the stack it is an Artifact Creature Spell
and on the battlefield it is an Artifact Creature Permanent or simply an Artifact Creature.

the tokens it creates simply don't exist outside of the battlefield (or exist for a very very short time in rare cases), they can never be spells or cards.
Flag Chrnocide April 6, 2011 3:33 PM PDT
a side question; are tokens considered creatures? 

Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?
Flag orcishartillery April 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT

Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:33PM, Chrnocide wrote:

a side question; are tokens considered creatures? 

Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?


Yes, creature tokens are creatures.  Soul's Attendant's ability triggers whenever any other creature enters the battlefield, whether that creature is a token or not.

Flag cyphern April 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT

Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:33PM, Chrnocide wrote:

a side question; are tokens considered creatures?


The vast majority of tokens are creatures, but tokens are not required to be creatures. For example, the token created by Imperial Mask is an enchantment, not a creature.


Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?


Yes, it will trigger. 

Flag Toottopichi October 6, 2012 3:42 AM PDT
if you use copy from MYR infinity: propagator,  palladium and galwanizera  it whether an artifact golem foundry will create for each token charge countera
Flag Enigma256 October 6, 2012 8:24 AM PDT
not sure if that was a question or not
if you have a question please make a new thread, don't necro a 2 year old thread
Flag Kenjiblade October 6, 2012 8:34 AM PDT
From what I can tell, the question seems to be:

"If I create artifact creature tokens, does that count as casting an artifact spell?"

And, if you bothered to read the previous posts at all, you'd know that the answer is no.  Artifact [b]spells[b] are cards on the stack which have the Artifact card type.

Also, as Enigma pointed out, it's bad form to perform thread necromancy on posts older than a week -- so reviving a 2 year old thread is an egregious error. :/
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