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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:02PM #1
Iceking7
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2011
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just curios on the artifact tokens and artifact spells and if the artifact tokens are the artifact spells.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:04PM #2
Studoku
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Putting a token onto the battlefield is not casting a spell.

Sep 1, 2011 -- 5:57PM, Chaikov wrote:

It is not logic: it's Magic.



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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:06PM #3
cyphern
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Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:02PM, Iceking7 wrote:

just curios on the artifact tokens and artifact spells and if the artifact tokens are the artifact spells.


A spell is a card on the stack, or a copy of a spell. For example, when you cast Myr Battlesphere , you move that piece of cardboard from your hand to the stack, and for now it is an "artifact spell". Then, everyone gets a chance to respond . Assuming there are no responses, myr battlesphere now resolves and moves from the stack to the battlefield. Since it is now on the battlefield, it is no longer an artifact spell (rather, it is just an "artifact"). 

At this point, myr battlesphere's ability triggers, and that triggered ability gets put on the stack. Abilities aren't spells though, so this ability is not an "artifact spell". When the ability resolves, it creates 4 1/1 colorless myr artifact creature tokens on the battlefield. Since these tokens were never on the stack (they were created already on the battlefield), they were never "artifact spells".

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:07PM #4
Iceking7
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now what exactly is considerd an artifact spell?
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:08PM #5
Iceking7
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thank you
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:17PM #6
Enigma256
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depending on where a card is it is considered different things.
let's take Myr Battlesphere as an example

in your hand/library/graveyard and also exile it is an Artifact Creature Card
on the stack it is an Artifact Creature Spell
and on the battlefield it is an Artifact Creature Permanent or simply an Artifact Creature.

the tokens it creates simply don't exist outside of the battlefield (or exist for a very very short time in rare cases), they can never be spells or cards.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:33PM #7
Chrnocide
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a side question; are tokens considered creatures? 

Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:44PM #8
orcishartillery
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Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:33PM, Chrnocide wrote:

a side question; are tokens considered creatures? 

Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?


Yes, creature tokens are creatures.  Soul's Attendant's ability triggers whenever any other creature enters the battlefield, whether that creature is a token or not.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2011 - 3:46PM #9
cyphern
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Apr 6, 2011 -- 3:33PM, Chrnocide wrote:

a side question; are tokens considered creatures?


The vast majority of tokens are creatures, but tokens are not required to be creatures. For example, the token created by Imperial Mask is an enchantment, not a creature.


Let's say.. would Soul's Attendant 's ability activate ( " Whenver another creature enters the battlefield, you may gain 1 life. " ) if a Myr 1/1 / or Eldrazi 0/1 token/spawn enter the field?


Yes, it will trigger. 

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 3:42AM #10
Toottopichi
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if you use copy from MYR infinity: propagator,  palladium and galwanizera  it whether an artifact golem foundry will create for each token charge countera
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