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Apr 05, 2011 - 6:47AM
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Note: If you don't wanna see spoilers for the new set, stop reading now.
Different from Future Speculation forum, here we'll discuss the spoiled cards' T2 applications. Link to spoiler: http://mtgsalvation.com/new-phyrexia-spoiler.html White
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Elesh Norn - She's a fantastic creature, I'll definitely try to make her of use, despite 7 mana tag. I'm testing a Big White list, and that deck easily hits 8 mana for Emeria anyway, and having this resolve against Caw-Blade is a fantastic game.
Norn's Annex - It can come down for 3 colorless and 4 life, so it can be run in any deck, but with the premium deck of format being white and no swarm aggro decks being in the format, can't see how this'll be relevant.
puresteel palasin - Just maaaaybe it can work in a mono white Quest deck, since Metalcraft will be easy to enable, and cantriping Mortarpods, free to equip, sounds like a nice little deal. I doubt it'll push the deck in any fashion, but it's still worth to watch out for. Blue
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psychological Surgery - I honestly don't know how good this card is. It can be just a better Arbiter in caw/blade mirrors -fatestealing every time a fetchland goes crack, a Mystic or Hawk resolves, is nice, but those all are early games, and this card can become useless very fast. Black
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praetor's Grip - Funny odd little card. In caw mirrors, UWb is at disadvantage against pure UW, and this card could potentially act like a Thada Adel that doesn't have to attack. Get your SoFaF? Jace? Hell, most people would die for a 3 mana tutor for Jace. Can be a very good sb card if Caw keeps being so popular.
phyrexian Canceller - This is like reverse phyrexian negator, meaner and angrier. Sure, a GftT kills it, but as a mainly red mage, I can't see how I could get rid of this... beast, without being in severe disadvantage. Issue is it needs mono black tho. Artifact / Colorless
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Karn - I spent last night thinking about how to use this thing and in what sort of deck. One mean way to do it is have a deck with few win conditions, that uses this, controls/prisons everything, starts over and over, and wins 1 game with severe Karn advantage (because each Ultimate makes your next Karn easier to cast. You can even exile a Karn in your hand and then have it be a Vindicate machine next game). I'm not reserved with any judgments on this card yet - but I'll definitely work on it.
Hex parasite - This is a pw killer and a Gideon Jura response. Jura and not Jace is currently the most broken pw I'd like to play now, and it'll be more and more obvious once Jace rotates. His ability is sick. He's cheap, he's artifact. Goodness gracious.
Screamwhip - First I was like "Meh", then I saw Living Weapon... It's, what? It's a huge, huge fat? And you equip it to phyrexian crusader/vampire nighthawk? Definitely on my watch list.
Spellsplitter - Odd little creature. Effectively, gives all your creatures shroud for a while. Makes them mostly unburnable. Where would it fit tho? What could use it? I have really no idea. Black and Artifact stuff is some of the sickest stuff and it's just 23 cards revealed so far. I can't wait to see some commons and uncommons. I love me some phyrexian love.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 6:59AM
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/spasm
Two amazingly strong in nearly all context black cards... one designed for MBC that is going to have to be acknowledged by the meta?
/twitch
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 8:15AM
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Date Joined:
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I think Elesh Norn is gonna do things to the meta that most people can't imagine... I mean, she shuts down Hawks, Grave Tokens, and pretty much every aggro deck there is. Oh, and pair her with White Son's Zenith for pure nastiness.
Also, I'm thinking that t3 Lich, t4 Canceller is going to be a very strong play for mid-range Black.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 8:17AM
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When I saw Hex Parasite  I was like whoa. And I do like the new black cards, Praetor's Grip  can be used to strip decks of swords or tutor up Jace, the Mind Sculptor  , Grave Titan  or Wurmcoil Engine  which are all sweet cards, you can't really maindeck the thing though, it is basically a blank against aggro.
As life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels pretty soft to me. And if it takes **** to make bliss, well I feel pretty blissfully. If life's not beautiful without the pain, well I just would rather never ever even see beauty again. Well as life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels pretty soft to me. 
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 8:23AM
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- Banner Banneret
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And pretty clear indicators that the next block will have a monocolored theme (or perhaps just M12). That should make you happy, Niche.
Snap judgments:
Karn is being overhyped and won't be worth the effort. Yeah you can ramp into him...but why not just ramp into Valakut for cheaper and win sooner?
Puresteel Paladin makes mystic decks stupid and will likely mean the death of cawblade in favor of some Wx/artifact/Tempered Steel beast.
Phyrexian canceller seems dope in MBC and Vampires.
Hex Parasite and Spellsplitter are really good.
Fresh Meat means token decks are suddenly legit.
Metallic Demon makes Kred playable again...maybe.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 8:42AM
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Karn is a colorless re-usable answer for mono black to problem permanents. Granted so is Spine of Ish Tzah  but Karn has got a bit more leverage for the same CC. I'm still stoked over Canceller. Still wiping spittle off my face. I know in the past I've complained about how black has stolen green's piece of the color wheel with undercosted fat... but this one is playable in the extreme and has amazingly potent flavor.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 8:44AM
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I definitely agree with you on Karn and Puresteel Paladin. Paladin is one of those "You must answer me." cards, and Karn while pretty good isn't insane or anything like some people seem to think, he most likely will see play though.
As life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels pretty soft to me. And if it takes **** to make bliss, well I feel pretty blissfully. If life's not beautiful without the pain, well I just would rather never ever even see beauty again. Well as life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels pretty soft to me.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 10:27AM
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 12:27PM
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Phyrexian Canceller is undercosted. It's going to be a "money card" and a staple of mono-black; whether control or beatdown, it fits the bill for both.
Karn will be a fun EDH planeswalker. He's too slow and expensive for Standard. I'm sure some decks will get use out of him, but he won't be in everything.
Hex Parasite is amazing and will be in the sideboards of almost everything.
I like the Screamwhip. It looks like a great 4-drop for mono-black aggro players who cannot afford to buy the Canceller.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 05, 2011 - 5:48PM
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Still haven't seen a solid answer for stoneforge-hawks yet, though Karn is pretty damn solid, and might just make Tezz decks viable. Hex parasite is just delicious, especially with the notion that you can pay life as an alternate resource. As scary as it sounds, I would GLADLY pay 16 life to eat a gideon, if it means I can kill their jace and play my own walkers in the same turn.
Canceller is sexy, though I don't see him getting a lot of play until after rotation. He certainly punishes decks for playing inferno, primeval, and grave titan though... Maybe a B/R list running Canceller, Lich, Percy, and Sarkhan the Mad....
Spellsplitter and Canceller seem like hardcore RDW hate cards as well, and RDW isn't even hard to hate on at the moment.
Mark my words - Puresteel paladin is going to make WW quest a solid FNM-level deck, and possibly tourney-competitive if you can get some neat tricks into the mix.
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