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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 12:01AM
#41
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Feb 10, 2011
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A Minotaur Monk with a goat head?? Is it still April 1st?
thats actually a snooki/rebecca black/russel brand hybrid prototype, but its nowhere near as "tiger blood" as the red white black charlie sheen/gary busee/mel gibson model coming out soon.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 6:10AM
#42
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Feb 22, 2005
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The thing that worries me most here is the 51 new cards. Will they be standard legal? probably not, but they'll certainly be Vintage legal at least. That'll make it really irritating if any of the cards are worth running. Commander decks are, by definition, singleton. This means that if you want a playset of any one card you either have to invest $120/deck or try to get singles from other people. And since it's a fixed set, you can bet the few exclusive cards in the deck that are truly good will be very expensive on the secondary market.
Have they mentioned any plans to re-release any of these cards in a future set at any point beyond the obvious "They've been printed so now they could always be reprinted"?
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 6:18AM
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@Dragon_Nut: They've already mentioned that, and it's been reprinted many, many times. They will not be standard or extended legal, but they will be legal in Legacy and Vintage. They don't expect any of the new cards to be important in those formats, so that shouldn't even be an issue. And you wouldn't have to buy more than a single copy of a deck, plenty of stores will sell the singles, so you could buy the set once and then get the other 3 copies at starcitygames or another such website. Yes, the ones that are really good will become expensive, but the only logical conclusion to that is to never give us new cards because players like you are worried they might be too popular. If they made the cards to be standard and extended legal, there would be restrictions on them they don't have to make if they aren't. And since they're being made with standard not in mind, they probably won't be reprinted down the line.
I for one am entirely looking forward to the new cards, and will enjoy the single copies I get in the build. If my other two decks really, really need them, I'm sure I can find them relatively cheap at stores, and if not, then oh well, only 1 of my decks has a copy, and not all 3; I happen to enjoy not having too many similarities between my decks, since it makes each feel significantly different.
This was a nice post, but I need to know what the abilities of the commanders are before I consider which one to purchase, and I just can't tell right now. It would have been nice to know what they are, which would still leave the decklists plus all of the new cards as unknowns, but since this is how they approach announcing the intro packs, it shouldn't surprise me.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 7:15AM
#44
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Date Joined:
Mar 22, 2011
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A Minotaur Monk with a goat head?? Is it still April 1st?
thats actually a snooki/rebecca black/russel brand hybrid prototype, but its nowhere near as "tiger blood" as the red white black charlie sheen/gary busee/mel gibson model coming out soon.
I lol'd. If only WotC would make another Un- set, those could be awesome. Too bad it would never happen because of the legal issues.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 7:34AM
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Feb 26, 2004
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Our first preview image was a guy who was obviously an RWB commander - why is he not in the RWB deck?
And I'm not happy about seeing the word "Guru" in a card name. It may have a legitimate origin, but it's been too thoroughly somethingized; its presence instantly takes me out of fantasy mode.
On the other hand, I love a legend called "The Mimeoplasm". Unique non-individuals for the win.
My New Phyrexia Writing CreditsMy M12 Writing CreditsAs far as the benefit of the rest of Magic is concerned, gold cards in Legends were executed perfectly. They got all the excitement a designer could hope out of a splashy new mechanic without using up any of the valuable design space. Truly amazing.
--Aaron Forsythe's Random Card Comment on Kei Takahashi 
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 8:35AM
#46
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Date Joined:
Sep 26, 2007
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Phyrexian Reaper's Oracle wording should to be modified back to its printed text. If my opponent activates its ability and reveals a card with converted mana cost 3, according to the printed text I could kill it by proliferating the +3/+3 counter. But the Oracle wording gives it 3 +1/+1 counters, so that won't work. Ditto for its interaction with Doubling Season.
Um... Phyrexian Reaper's Oracle wording IS the printed text. And it doesn't involve any card reveals or counters.
What card are you actually talking about?
He is talking about Phyrexian Devourer  .
Thank you for the correction/clarification.
Could anyone explain why its interaction with Doubling Season would be different, though? in both cases (oracle and original), the p/t increase would be doubled... I imagine I'm missing something.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 8:40AM
#47
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Sep 26, 2007
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And I'm not happy about seeing the word "Guru" in a card name. It may have a legitimate origin, but it's been too thoroughly somethingized; its presence instantly takes me out of fantasy mode.
Care to elaborate? Why is the word 'guru' any worse than 'warrior' or 'monk'?
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Incidentally, I'm really hoping that the BGW one is all about thallids. If it's essentially a fungus-based deck, I'll definitely be buying that. I might even buy multiple.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 9:20AM
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I've been wondering since the announcement of the weges whether the decks would be mainly centered around the color pairs or centered around their shared enemy color. I wonder if the boxes answer that question; for instance, the GBU Devour for Power deck has a green-colored box. Hmm...
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 9:26AM
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Phyrexian Reaper's Oracle wording should to be modified back to its printed text. If my opponent activates its ability and reveals a card with converted mana cost 3, according to the printed text I could kill it by proliferating the +3/+3 counter. But the Oracle wording gives it 3 +1/+1 counters, so that won't work. Ditto for its interaction with Doubling Season.
Um... Phyrexian Reaper's Oracle wording IS the printed text. And it doesn't involve any card reveals or counters.
What card are you actually talking about?
He is talking about Phyrexian Devourer .
Thank you for the correction/clarification.
Could anyone explain why its interaction with Doubling Season would be different, though? in both cases (oracle and original), the p/t increase would be doubled... I imagine I'm missing something.
Doubling Season  wouldn't do anything different on it's own. Adding a +3/+3 counter will end up with the same effect as adding three +1/+1 counters. Each counter will be added twice for each instance.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2011 - 9:29AM
#50
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Jun 20, 2010
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They don't expect any of the new cards to be important in those formats, so that shouldn't even be an issue.
But they're not perfect at predicting such things. If they were, they probably wouldn't have made the decision to stop doing unique book and convention promos. There's also the issue that if any of them do, the decks will become expensive because of it and they won't be able to fulfill their goal of introducing people to the Commander format.
Which would make me sad, 'cause I want to try EDH, but I get overwhelmed trying to start from scratch.
(Is there a nice 'short form' for Commander that isn't falling back to the old name? I sorta wish Wizards had just printed a bunch of Scottish elder dragons as generals to keep the name :P)
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