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2 years ago ::
Mar 06, 2011 - 10:56AM
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I have some questions about this card. 112.10. Effects can add or remove abilities of objects. An effect that adds an ability will state that the object "gains" or "has" that ability. An effect that removes an ability will state that the object "loses" that ability. Effects that remove an ability remove all instances of it. If two or more effects add and remove the same ability, in general the most recent one prevails. (See rule 613, "Interaction of Continuous Effects.")
Question one:
T3 Have Cryptoplasm copy an infect card
T4 Have Cryptoplasm copy a trample such as Terra Stomper
The card says
"At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have Cryptoplasm become a copy of another target creature. If you do, Cryptoplasm gains this ability."
So, it it now Terra or is it Terra with infect?
Question 2:
Does the card cop Color too? Does it become an Artifact creature if it copies an artifact? So, I have another card that requires me to sack 3 artifacts... can Crypto serve as one of them?
Thanks!!!
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2 years ago ::
Mar 06, 2011 - 11:22AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2006
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I have some questions about this card.
112.10. Effects can add or remove abilities of objects. An effect that adds an ability will state that the object "gains" or "has" that ability. An effect that removes an ability will state that the object "loses" that ability. Effects that remove an ability remove all instances of it. If two or more effects add and remove the same ability, in general the most recent one prevails. (See rule 613, "Interaction of Continuous Effects.")
Question one:
T3 Have Cryptoplasm copy an infect card
T4 Have Cryptoplasm copy a trample such as Terra Stomper
The card says
"At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have Cryptoplasm become a copy of another target creature. If you do, Cryptoplasm gains this ability."
So, it it now Terra or is it Terra with infect?
It is a Terra Stomper  on pretty much all accounts, and it doesn't have any abilities of creatures copied earlier. The ability that Cryptoplasm  gains when it copies a creature is the same ability it has printed on it, that allows it to copy a new creature on a later upkeep of its controller, and that's it. "This ability" means "the ability you're reading right now". If the ability didn't have that clause, then Cryptoplasm would lose it as soon as it copies something and would be unable to copy something else later.
Question 2:
Does the card cop Color too? Does it become an Artifact creature if it copies an artifact? So, I have another card that requires me to sack 3 artifacts... can Crypto serve as one of them?
Thanks!!!
Yes on all of that. Pretty much every characteristic of a card is copiable : color, name, mana cost, card types and subtypes, the whole deal.
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2 years ago ::
Mar 06, 2011 - 11:24AM
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May 15, 2010
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No matter what you copy with Cryptoplasm , it will end up as an exact copy of that card with one exception: It also has the Cryptoplasm's original copy ability. It will otherwise have the name, types (supertypes, card types and subtypes), mana cost, power, toughness, colors, abilities, and everything else of whatever it copied. It won't keep any other abilities from its old form. This is because of the rules of copy effects, which don't allow something to keep their old abilities, so the Cryptoplasm has to regain its ability for it to work in the future.
Rules Nut Advisor
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2 years ago ::
Mar 06, 2011 - 11:49AM
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Thanks.
I use Crypto to copy Silver Mry or early heavy that my opponent pulls until I get out Kuldotha Forgemaster out then I grab blightsteel, sack Silver Myr, Crypto, and Kuldotha. They said I coudln't use Crypto as one of the 3 sacks.
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2 years ago ::
Mar 06, 2011 - 12:39PM
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Oct 29, 2007
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If Crptoplasm was copying an artifact, you would be able to sac it to Kuldotha Forgemaster 
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2 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2011 - 2:04PM
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Sorry to rehash an old thread but one more question that I need help with about Cryptoplasm...
So, can someone tell me if Cryptoplasm also take the PT of the target card? If so, is there a rule or something I can get to prove it? there seems to be a lot of disagreement over this one...
Example:
Crypto copies Blightsteel Collosus.
Does it yield an 2/2 or 11/11 ?
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2 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2011 - 2:07PM
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Date Joined:
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Yes, a creatures power and toughness are part of the copieable values. What good would Clone  be of it didn't get the creatures power and toughness it was coping.
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2 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2011 - 2:07PM
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Date Joined:
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Sorry to rehash an old thread but one more question that I need help with about Cryptoplasm...
So, can someone tell me if Cryptoplasm also take the PT of the target card? If so, is there a rule or something I can get to prove it? there seems to be a lot of disagreement over this one...
Example:
Crypto copies Blightsteel Collosus.
Does it yield an 2/2 or 11/11 ?
Cryptoplasm, and any other copy effect, copis everything on the card, P/T included. As a quick counterexample, see Quicksilver Gargantuan  , which does not copy the P/T of the other thing, and needs a specific exemption from normal copy effects in order to do so.
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2 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2011 - 2:08PM
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Sorry to rehash an old thread but one more question that I need help with about Cryptoplasm...
So, can someone tell me if Cryptoplasm also take the PT of the target card? If so, is there a rule or something I can get to prove it? there seems to be a lot of disagreement over this one...
Example:
Crypto copies Blightsteel Collosus.
Does it yield an 2/2 or 11/11 ?
It will copy the P/T
This is the rule you are looking for:
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The “copiable values” are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied
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2 years ago ::
Mar 15, 2011 - 2:24PM
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Sorry to rehash an old thread but one more question that I need help with about Cryptoplasm...
So, can someone tell me if Cryptoplasm also take the PT of the target card? If so, is there a rule or something I can get to prove it? there seems to be a lot of disagreement over this one...
Example:
Crypto copies Blightsteel Collosus.
Does it yield an 2/2 or 11/11 ?
It will copy the P/T
This is the rule you are looking for:
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The “copiable values” are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied
What a great reply 
So, if an opponent has a Death's Shadow  that came in as a 10/10 because they had 3 life left, would I copy the 10/10 or would I get X/X based on MY total life?
In other words in the case where PT are not static numbers how do I resolve then?
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