I really hope for a clean Karn. Or Wizards killt me twice.
Im starting to think that there will be 2 Karn cards, one in his Phyrexian aspect and one for his Mirran self (the Legendary/Planeswalker Uniqueness rule would work perfectly here).
~ Tim *NOT sarcasm.
I feel genuine sadness for the Mirrans. Im quite moved.* There still looks like there is some fighting to do though...Im starting to think that there will be 2 Karn cards, one in his Phyrexian aspect and one for his Mirran self (the Legendary/Planesw
So after all this hoopla, "pick your side" and beating this horse long past after it was dead and decayed, the big reveal is a 50 second youtube video and a throwaway arcana?
Way to go, Wizards. You made us endure all this repetition of "what will it be" over months and months and then you don't even provide the least bit of a climactic last minute. At least we now pretty much know what the last set in the inevitable Mirrodin III block will be, about five years from now.
I hope the cards in this last set will make up for what has so far been one of the most underwhelming blocks in Magic history in execution despite a good idea, but you can't show a war or create an exciting conflict without some cool evil overlords, something that has sadly been missing from MBS. Now with the Praetors finally being released, we would finally be able to get a real war going and have some fun, but that'll have to wait until 2016 or so.
So after all this hoopla, "pick your side" and beating this horse long past after it was dead and decayed, the big reveal is a 50 second youtube video and a throwaway arcana? Way to go, Wizards. You made us endure all this repetition of "what will it
From the comments here, it seems like most people didn't even bother to watch the video.
It's heavily, heavily implied that the Mirrans have a comeback planned; it's just a question of whether it's after this set and explained in a novel, or in a Mirrodin III set. Maybe we shouldn't get so hung up on set names?
I was really hoping to see that shiny white packaging. I think the New Phyrexia packaging is really ugly.
From the comments here, it seems like most people didn't even bother to watch the video.It's heavily, heavily implied that the Mirrans have a comeback planned; it's just a question of whether it's after this set and explained in a novel, or in a Mirr
Not so much "forgotten" as "never heard of". Linkmeplz?[/quote]These were the prerelease cards around the time of Invasion and Odyssey blocks. [c]Raging Kavu[/c] - in Latin [c]Questing Phelddagriff[/c] - in Ancient Greek(?) [c]Fungal Shambler[/c]
The biggest tell for New Phyrexia was the fact that they saved the anti WR sword for this set. It just makes the most sense in the Phyrexian set. Besides, this makes for a better story.
The biggest tell for New Phyrexia was the fact that they saved the anti WR sword for this set. It just makes the most sense in the Phyrexian set. Besides, this makes for a better story.
Seeing as April 1st is 3 days away it's hard for me to take any gaming company seriously.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway.
You must never read video game magazines.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway. [/quote]You must never read video game magazines.
Seeing as April 1st is 3 days away it's hard for me to take any gaming company seriously.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway.
You must never read video game magazines.
As much as I want them to turn around and say "Hey guys just kidding lolololol", I highly doubt they will. It makes much, much more sense for the set to be New Phyrexia. If they worked in some legitimate "Mirrans fought back enough to survive" thing, or "Venser uses his ship to get them to another plane" thing, I'd be ok with some small amount of reversal. But turning around and saying it was all a joke's even more gimmicky than the reveal was in the first place.
And I'd guess that game 'zines do that because they only release monthly (usually).
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway. [/quote]You must never read video game magazines.[/quote]As much as I want them to turn around and say "Hey guys just kiddi
Seeing as April 1st is 3 days away it's hard for me to take any gaming company seriously.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway.
You must never read video game magazines.
Actually, I used to get the Game Informer magazine. Plus, magazines aren't daily so if they want to do an April fools joke they either have to print it in their March or April issue.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway. [/quote]You must never read video game magazines.[/quote]Actually, I used to get the Game Informer magazine. Plus, magazin
Is it just me, or was that anti-climax at its finest? They hold it in suspense for months and when they finally release it, all they have is a banner at the top and a short arcana. I liked the reveal on Kozilek or the reveal of Damnation way back when much more.
Is it just me, or was that anti-climax at its finest? They hold it in suspense for months and when they finally release it, all they have is a banner at the top and a short arcana. I liked the reveal on Kozilek or the reveal of Damnation way back whe
I was excited enough to come back to magic after a year hiatus, caused by the new combat rules. I played a few drafts and reinstalled magic:online. But after Besieged, my interest waned. And the whole Mirrodin Pure/New Phyrexia thing, "pick your side but it wont matter!", just ended it.
Now they announce the New Phyrexia. OMG, :O None of us expected that! ¬¬ If by one side you have a amazing villain back to the fore, you just destroyed one of the coolest places in magic multiverse, at the same time you cheapened ALL the past storylines and heros that were all about DESTROYING that damn phyrexians. Now they are not only back, but are stronger then they were before.
I get what having the phyrexians back do to the future storylines, but at the same time you recur a old recurring villain that was killed for good.
Now I'll leaving magic scene again. At least I will wait for the next block to uninstall the client and fade for another year. Don't screw Ravenloft like you screwed with Mirrodin and the Phyrexians.
I was excited enough to come back to magic after a year hiatus, caused by the new combat rules. I played a few drafts and reinstalled magic:online. But after Besieged, my interest waned. And the whole Mirrodin Pure/New Phyrexia thing, "pick your side
Now they are not only back, but are stronger then they were before.
Actually, I don't think they're absolutely stronger, I think they're just stronger relative to their environments. The old Phyrexians were capable of besting old-style Planeswalkers and it took a lot of time, energy, and sacrifice on Urza's part to bring them down.
These Phyrexians? Struggled to capture a planet even though the only walkers were new and weak. Phyrexia at its full strength would have wiped Mirrodin out without a thought. Yawgmoth is dead, and Phyrexia is destroyed. The Phyrexians are far from the all-powerful, all-conquering force they previously were.
I'm just hoping that Wizards doesn't ruin the elaborate setup by having New Phyrexia be defeated next block.
Actually, I don't think they're absolutely stronger, I think they're just stronger relative to their environments. The old Phyrexians were capable of besting old-style Planeswalkers and it took a lot of time, energy, and sacrifice on Urza's part to b
Not so much "forgotten" as "never heard of". Linkmeplz?[/quote]These were the prerelease cards around the time of Invasion and Odyssey blocks. [c]Raging Kavu[/c] - in Latin [c]Questing Phelddagriff[/c] - in Ancient Greek(?) [c]Fungal Shambler[/c]
Seeing as April 1st is 3 days away it's hard for me to take any gaming company seriously.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway.
You must never read video game magazines.
Anyone who views this magazine knows that the April Fools jokes happen on April Fools day, not three days before. This is real.
You don't usually make April fools jokes until April 1st. Besides, the split of the set was likely to be 80% Phyrexia anyway. [/quote]You must never read video game magazines.[/quote]Anyone who views this magazine knows that the April Fools jokes ha
"Compleation?" Did they mean "compilation" or "completion" or something, because that isn't a word. >_>
More on topic: I'm not at all surprised. Every preview card for the mirrans we've seen has been a manafact or a little dude, whereas the phyrexians were getting the main reveals. I'd say this whole project of keeping it secret didn't really pan out the way they intended.
Do you think the prerelease card will be in the phyrexian language? That would be entirely epic.
"Compleation?" Did they mean "compilation" or "completion" or something, because that isn't a word. >_>More on topic: I'm not at all surprised. Every preview card for the mirrans we've seen has been a manafact or a little dude, whereas the phyrexians
"Compleation" isn't a word? You haven't been paying attention. It *is* a word in Phyrexian vocabulary.
As to the announcement itself, I think it's pretty cool that WotC is letting the villains win for once (or does Stronghold count as *winning*?).
Anyway, I think this is "the empire strikes back" of the Mirrodin trilogy
"Compleation" isn't a word? You haven't been paying attention. It *is* a word in Phyrexian vocabulary.As to the announcement itself, I think it's pretty cool that WotC is letting the villains win for once (or does Stronghold count as *winning*?). Any
I think everyone is reading to much in the name. Sure, they have the Phyrexians with the upper hand in this story but I don't think it means they ultimately win in this story arc. Even the New Phrexia trailer was conflicted. My only problem is I will never know how it actually ends, since they never reveal that on the website and I don't read the books... but that's no different for me then The Eldrazi, or Shards, or Eventide... I have no idea how any of those conflicts got resolved. Sometimes I feel like I'm reading 3/4th a book and putting it down with this game.
I think everyone is reading to much in the name. Sure, they have the Phyrexians with the upper hand in this story but I don't think it means they ultimately win in this story arc. Even the New Phrexia trailer was conflicted. My only problem is I w
The video did a pretty good job giving a strong feel for the set. Personally, I get a sense of almost Tolkien-esque industrial corruption from the video. It gives off a vibe that I can't really pinpoint. Oppression and defeat, I think, are the feelings I'm looking for here. I feel the faintest glimmer of hope at the end when Karn stands up. They do a great job playing off of the tropes of popular fantasy.
It does feel a bit anti-climactic, though I am excited that the Daleks Phyrexians won. This could have waited a little longer, with a full-page article dedicated to it. I know that many people feel it was stretched out long enough, but this announcement just feels too non-chalant, like "Oh hey, by the way, did you get the memo? Phyrexians win the war." They could have used previews to rebuild the anticipation that seemed to have waned in recent months.
Scars of Mirrodin block hasn't really gotten me overly excited. It's interesting, but the mechanics aren't really my cup of tea. When I think of artifacts, I want machinery and mechanical devices, but (as Doug Beyer points out), they don't want to venture too far into other areas of fantasy, which is a legitimate point. If they do artifacts, they've got to do it in a "magical" way, as opposed to a physical, mechanical way, because Magic: The Gathering is supposed to be about Magic, not devices.
My hopes for this set are for a Karn planeswalker, regardless of whether or not he is fully corrupted or if he overcomes the corruption and escapes New Phyrexia. I don't know a whole lot about the details of Karn's backstory, but I recall being told that somewhere along the way, he lost his ability to planeswalk, and I think it would be great if Wizards came up with a way for him to get it back.
The video did a pretty good job giving a strong feel for the set. Personally, I get a sense of almost Tolkien-esque industrial corruption from the video. It gives off a vibe that I can't really pinpoint. Oppression and defeat, I think, are the feelin
Additionally, I'd like to cast my vote in favor of Promo Cards written in Phyrexian. It's strange and a little unconventional, but the flavor is fantastic. Not sure how they'd allow the cards to be used in Tournaments, considering that (as far as I know), no one can read or understand it. I imagine it would be treated the same as a card in a foreign language; you may not understand it, but you are familiar enough with the card to know its functions.
Additionally, I'd like to cast my vote in favor of Promo Cards written in Phyrexian. It's strange and a little unconventional, but the flavor is fantastic. Not sure how they'd allow the cards to be used in Tournaments, considering that (as far as I k
I'd just like to point out that they've gotten us to spend the entire length of the block arguing about the third set. The one that nobody cares about because it leaves Standard within ten seconds.
Anybody claiming they aren't geniuses is clearly missing their actual goal.
I'd just like to point out that they've gotten us to spend the entire length of the block arguing about the third set. The one that nobody cares about because it leaves Standard within ten seconds.Anybody claiming they aren't geniuses is clearly miss
Wizards: We just killed an old friend that almost everyone liked to give you something we think is cooler! You're psyched right?
Players: Ummm ....
-MT Head
PS - I am still in the I think we somehow get both camp.
Wizards: We just killed an old friend that almost everyone liked to give you something we think is cooler! You're psyched right?Players: Ummm ....-MT HeadPS - I am still in the I think we somehow get both camp.
How can Elesh Norn be "vigilant" when it's obvious he can't see diddly squat with those big things covering up his eyes?
Seriously, though, that art is wicked!
How can Elesh Norn be "vigilant" when it's obvious he can't see diddly squat with those big things covering up his eyes? ;)Seriously, though, that art is wicked!
More on topic: I'm not at all surprised. Every preview card for the mirrans we've seen has been a manafact or a little dude, whereas the phyrexians were getting the main reveals. I'd say this whole project of keeping it secret didn't really pan out the way they intended.
I think the art itself has been a bigger tell for the phyrexian win then anything else. If you look at the back drops for most of the mirrodin art it's dark, not something you'd invision when you think of them winning. The best examples are the backrounds of Puresteel Paladin and Melira since both shows a very dark setting. Even the preview art we got from Mirrodin Pure had the dark backdrop and foreboding atmosphere.
Over all, I think they did play it up a bit much, but it got people talking about the set so they did get there job done.
I think the art itself has been a bigger tell for the phyrexian win then anything else. If you look at the back drops for most of the mirrodin art it's dark, not something you'd invision when you think of them winning. The best examples are the backr
Wizards: We just killed an old friend that almost everyone liked to give you something we think is cooler! You're psyched right?
Players: Ummm ....
-MT Head
PS - I am still in the I think we somehow get both camp.
Even if you live in some delusion where mirrodin is cooler than phyrexia, you still must concede that phyrexia is older.
My point wasn't that they should hold off in giving us the cool new thing. (Yes Phyrexia is cool.) My point is that they don't have to take away that other thing to give us something new.
-MT Addition is double plus plus Subtraction
Even if you live in some delusion where mirrodin is cooler than phyrexia, you still must concede that phyrexia is older.[/quote]My point wasn't that they should hold off in giving us the cool new thing. (Yes Phyrexia is cool.) My point is that they
I must say that that phyrexian really feels like a white creature; that is very cool!
It's also interesting that they chose to create a new creature type of Praetor. I suppose Advisor just wasn't grandiose enough?
I must say that that phyrexian really feels like a white creature; that is very cool!It's also interesting that they chose to create a new creature type of Praetor. I suppose Advisor just wasn't grandiose enough?
Given the primary focus of "Scars" being Mirran, and "Besieged" a equal set, the revelation of "New Phyrexia" is not surprising. I wonder what else is going to be in the set. And a word of Advice to Koth, Elspeth, and Venser... RUN!!!
Given the primary focus of "Scars" being Mirran, and "Besieged" a equal set, the revelation of "New Phyrexia" is not surprising. I wonder what else is going to be in the set. And a word of Advice to Koth, Elspeth, and Venser... RUN!!!
I have to say, I am really excited for NPh! Even more excited then i was for the release of time spiral! Im definitely buying at least one booster box... Oh and i think that the new Karn will be Mirran, not Phyrexian.
I have to say, I am really excited for NPh! Even more excited then i was for the release of time spiral!Im definitely buying at least one booster box... Oh and i think that the new Karn will be Mirran, not Phyrexian.
Given the primary focus of "Scars" being Mirran, and "Besieged" a equal set, the revelation of "New Phyrexia" is not surprising. I wonder what else is going to be in the set. And a word of Advice to Koth, Elspeth, and Venser... RUN!!!
Click to embiggen:
Letting the Planeswalkers there know what a good job they did.
Click to embiggen:Letting the Planeswalkers there know what a good job they did.
Okay. Not surprising that the bad guys won. You don't re-introduce a big bad like that just to have them defeated (this block, at least). I maintain it would have been a more enjoyable "trick" to have it called Mirrodin Pure, but have the reveal be that it's now "purely Phyrexian".
Okay. Not surprising that the bad guys won. You don't re-introduce a big bad like that just to have them defeated (this block, at least). I maintain it would have been a more enjoyable "trick" to have it called Mirrodin Pure, but have the reveal be t
I was hoping for New Phyrexia! The reveal of this is pretty cool; the set name tells which way the war is going but both sides are far from done. There seems to be a lot of whiners, but this return to Mirrodin block has stayed really exciting! I'm hoping the next block carries energy so well!
I was hoping for New Phyrexia! The reveal of this is pretty cool; the set name tells which way the war is going but both sides are far from done. There seems to be a lot of whiners, but this return to Mirrodin block has stayed really exciting! I'm ho
Its time for New Phyrexia You're gonna make new decks-ia!
I was originally for the Mirrans, and still kinda am, but after all this, I don't really care anymore. As long as the cards aren't too OP, and feel awesome, I'm fine with it. I LOVED that trailer, btw.
Its time for New PhyrexiaYou're gonna make new decks-ia!I was originally for the Mirrans, and still kinda am, but after all this, I don't really care anymore. As long as the cards aren't too OP, and feel awesome, I'm fine with it. I LOVED that traile
I still think its bizarre they released it on a TUESDAY. You'd think they'd do it on a Monday so you can get a feature article + Phyexia theme week.
My guess is that somebody got ahold of the information and they had to hastily release the information rather than have everyone already know before the official announcement. All it would take would be one leaked card. So that's what I'm guessing happened.
I still think its bizarre they released it on a TUESDAY. You'd think they'd do it on a Monday so you can get a feature article + Phyexia theme week.My guess is that somebody got ahold of the information and they had to hastily release the information
Well, now the wait is on for the Karn card spoilers (I'm guessing that there will be several to at least feature him). If he has a creature card, i hope it will not be a reprint, and if not, that even if it is a Phyrexian, it doesn't have infect.
Also, did it seem odd to anybody else that Urabrask popped up after Karn rather than with the Praetors? Probably just my Magic conspiarcy theory alarm going off in my head for no reason, but i hope that means something postive, for those of us who don't really like the feel of Phyrexia.
Well, now the wait is on for the Karn card spoilers (I'm guessing that there will be several to at least feature him). If he has a creature card, i hope it will not be a reprint, and if not, that even if it is a Phyrexian, it doesn't have infect.Also
This war has been a lot of fun. I think it was well-planned and executed. I'm glad they did the reveal suddenly like this, it caught me by surprise. I think most people guessed the final set was going to be New Phyrexia because bringing back the Phyrexians is a big deal and having them take over an iconic plane sets up the conflict for subsequent blocks, but a lot of storytelling depends on willing suspension of disbelief. I think the players who didn't like it just had a fundamental conflict with the premise of having the storyline intrude on the marketing and tournament events, but I think that helps make the storyline relevant. I liked the "Weatherlight Saga" more than the storylines of the next few blocks, and I think Scars has done an even better job of telling a story.
This war has been a lot of fun. I think it was well-planned and executed. I'm glad they did the reveal suddenly like this, it caught me by surprise. I think most people guessed the final set was going to be New Phyrexia because bringing back the Phyr
Has anyone taken note of the secondary voice in the promo video? From what I can hear...
"All is not as it seems, the struggle is far from over. (They're) consuming our world, the infectors will become the infected. The heart of Mirrodin burns! Now we are one. Karn is coming. The/Our saviour." It was all in a humanoid voice.
Does this beginning of this mean that the war isn't over yet or that the Mirrans survive but the Phyrexians move on to a new world? (See Elesh Norn's flavor text)
Thoughts/comments?
Has anyone taken note of the secondary voice in the promo video? From what I can hear..."All is not as it seems, the struggle is far from over. (They're) consuming our world, the infectors will become the infected. The heart of Mirrodin burns! Now we
Has anyone taken note of the secondary voice in the promo video? From what I can hear... "All is not as it seems, the struggle is far from over. (They're) consuming our world, the infectors will become the infected. The heart of Mirrodin burns! Now we are one. Karn is coming. The/Our saviour." It was all in a humanoid voice. Does this beginning of this mean that the war isn't over yet or that the Mirrans survive but the Phyrexians move on to a new world? (See Elesh Norn's flavor text) Thoughts/comments?
You have to take that along with the Phyrexian dialogue. In particular;
Beneath Phyrexian skin, the heart of Mirrodin burns. The body is whole, but whispers splinter the mind.
That would suggest that although Mirrodin is gone, but the Mirrians have some sort of influence over the Phyrexians themselves.
You have to take that along with the Phyrexian dialogue. In particular;That would suggest that although Mirrodin is gone, but the Mirrians have some sort of influence over the Phyrexians themselves.
But what if you were to completely separate each side, though?
"The Father of Machines is coming. Destroyer./Karn is coming. Our saviour" What if Yawgmoth is back, finally? Karona said she ran into him... That, and what if Yawgmoth/Karn is different than what was expected and now the Mirrans and Phyrexians band together? O.o Sword of War and (Peace) anyone? Urabrask is called the Hidden One, and so is Yawgmoth... hmmmm...
But what if you were to completely separate each side, though?"The Father of Machines is coming. Destroyer./Karn is coming. Our saviour" What if Yawgmoth is back, finally? Karona said she ran into him... That, and what if Yawgmoth/Karn is different t
Well, now the wait is on for the Karn card spoilers (I'm guessing that there will be several to at least feature him). If he has a creature card, i hope it will not be a reprint, and if not, that even if it is a Phyrexian, it doesn't have infect.
Also, did it seem odd to anybody else that Urabrask popped up after Karn rather than with the Praetors? Probably just my Magic conspiarcy theory alarm going off in my head for no reason, but i hope that means something postive, for those of us who don't really like the feel of Phyrexia.
Personal theory is we'll get little infect this pack so you shouldn't worry about that. I mean think about it, the flavor of it was that phyrexia was corrupting Mirrodin, and now that it is done, it doesn't fit as well. I also think this is why we got so few infect cards in Besieged, they were giving the archetype support it would have missed out on from the 3rd set.
When I was looking around after the announcement I found this little quote over at mananation
Mananation] Phyrexia Announces Total Victory wrote:
Phyrexia Announces Total Victory
The Machine Orthodoxy today announced total victory for the forces of Phyrexia and the utter obliteration of all that was Mirran.
“The Great Work is Complete,” said Grand Cenobite Elesh Norn. “The stain of imperfection which is Mirrodin has been scourged and in its place we have shaped the face of New Phyrexia.”
Jin-Gitaxius, Praetor of the Progress Engine, Augur to The Core continued, “The raw flesh we have at our disposal will allow us to continue The Great Synthesis unabated. Our destiny lies outside the crude battles between slavering beasts of which we have endured these many years. Through our experimentation will arise the strength of New Life.”
Other prominent Praetors were also in attendance. The Voice of Hunger, Vorinclex, took a defiant tone. “The struggle for survival is never complete. Wherever there is weakness, there is still the necessity of conflict. As the predator cannot abide prey, so do the strong feed upon the strong. Our purpose has only begun.”
Sheoldred, The Whispering One, declined conspicuous comment.
Praetor Urabrask was notably absent from the proceedings.
Clearly he doesn't like the others. Add on the fact that he is Red, the color that least agrees with Phyrexian ideals, clearly the odds are conflict is high.
Has anyone taken note of the secondary voice in the promo video? From what I can hear... "All is not as it seems, the struggle is far from over. (They're) consuming our world, the infectors will become the infected. The heart of Mirrodin burns! Now we are one. Karn is coming. The/Our saviour." It was all in a humanoid voice. Does this beginning of this mean that the war isn't over yet or that the Mirrans survive but the Phyrexians move on to a new world? (See Elesh Norn's flavor text) Thoughts/comments?
It's safe to say their are still Mirrodins left, I mean we saw some in the trailer. I think the infectors are the infected is talking about the divid that was created. We know that the access to different mana has changed, or infected, them from within. The heart of Mirrodin could mean Karn has come to and is going to fight against phyrexia or that those that remain fighting for mirrodin will fight until the end.
I do find the "Now we are one" comment interesting since the "All Will Be One" has been the mantra of the Phyrexians from the get go.
Personally I would have loved it if they announced it on friday since it would have messed with people and would have been funny. Personal theory is we'll get little infect this pack so you shouldn't worry about that. I mean think about it, the flavo
Does this beginning of this mean that the war isn't over yet or that the Mirrans survive but the Phyrexians move on to a new world? (See Elesh Norn's flavor text)
Point: at the height of their power, the Phyrexians created an entire plane as an invasion force to attack another plane. Just saying.
Point: at the height of their power, the Phyrexians created an entire plane as an invasion force to attack another plane. Just saying.
The Mirrans definitely infected Phyrexia, mainly infecting them with the rest of the MTG rainbow. I like how Phyrexia's now as fragmented as the Mirrans were at first, and the Mirrans are standing together as one. Great reversal of flavor.
I really do hope Mirrans get away, most likely through a Deus Ex Venser. I just want them to survive in some way that's not "Live on through Phyrexia".
The Mirrans definitely infected Phyrexia, mainly infecting them with the rest of the MTG rainbow. I like how Phyrexia's now as fragmented as the Mirrans were at first, and the Mirrans are standing together as one. Great reversal of flavor.I really do
What if Yawgmoth is back, finally? Karona said she ran into him... That, and what if Yawgmoth/Karn is different than what was expected and now the Mirrans and Phyrexians band together?
What if Karn is the new Yawgmoth? There's nothing to say he can't go berserk with infection and take it out on anything and everything on Mirrodin. It's his plane, after all.
What if Karn is the new Yawgmoth?There's nothing to say he can't go berserk with infection and take it out on anything and everything on Mirrodin. It's his plane, after all. ;)
What if Yawgmoth is back, finally? Karona said she ran into him... That, and what if Yawgmoth/Karn is different than what was expected and now the Mirrans and Phyrexians band together?
What if Karn is the new Yawgmoth? There's nothing to say he can't go berserk with infection and take it out on anything and everything on Mirrodin. It's his plane, after all.
Well Karn already is the new Father of Machines, which was Yawgmoth's official title. He can't really be the new "Yawgmoth" any more than that.
Oh and you shouldn't really reference anything Karona did to support a statement. Her exploits are refered to as "Karona's bogus journey" for a reason.
What if Karn is the new Yawgmoth?There's nothing to say he can't go berserk with infection and take it out on anything and everything on Mirrodin. It's his plane, after all. ;)[/quote]Well Karn already is the new Father of Machines, which was Yawgmot
This shouldn't really be all that big of a surprise. When Rosewater announced there would be no way to get rid of poison counters, it was sorta the nail in the Mirran's coffin. Think about it- when your enemy's main weapon is disease, the only way you are realistically going to beat them is to find a way to cure that disease.
This shouldn't really be all that big of a surprise. When Rosewater announced there would be no way to get rid of poison counters, it was sorta the nail in the Mirran's coffin. Think about it- when your enemy's main weapon is disease, the only way yo
The Frost Titan art is BEYOND incredible. My jaw hit the floor, and I'm usually not one for falling in love with Magic art.
Monty, get us wallpapers of these.
The Frost Titan art is BEYOND incredible. My jaw hit the floor, and I'm usually not one for falling in love with Magic art.Monty, get us wallpapers of these.
Sweet looking promo cards for the Duels games. I prefer the new art for Frost and Inferno, actually, although the new Grave Titan art pales in compairson to the original. Nonetheless of the 3 I'd prefer Grave Titan, but alas with Steam I'd get the blue one. Oh well.
Sweet looking promo cards for the Duels games. I prefer the new art for Frost and Inferno, actually, although the new Grave Titan art pales in compairson to the original. Nonetheless of the 3 I'd prefer Grave Titan, but alas with Steam I'd get the bl
The Frost Titan art is BEYOND incredible. My jaw hit the floor, and I'm usually not one for falling in love with Magic art.
Monty, get us wallpapers of these.
My thoughts exactly.
Now, this looks like a frost titan should look like. Not like a blue dude with a rather big genital, posing for his travel picture close to some mountains with his pet axe.
My thoughts exactly.Now, this looks like a [c]frost titan[/c] should look like. Not like a blue dude with a rather big genital, posing for his travel picture close to some mountains with his pet axe.
It does feel a bit anti-climactic, though I am excited that the Daleks Phyrexians won. This could have waited a little longer, with a full-page article dedicated to it. I know that many people feel it was stretched out long enough, but this announcement just feels too non-chalant, like "Oh hey, by the way, did you get the memo? Phyrexians win the war." They could have used previews to rebuild the anticipation that seemed to have waned in recent months.
I fully agree with this. I honestly expected them to drag this out until previews started, then started the first week with a huge feature article. The video was really cool and you can tell that a lot of work went into it, but it was a bit anti-climactic to just get it spelled out so easily.
Wizards: We just killed an old friend that almost everyone liked to give you something we think is cooler! You're psyched right?
Players: Ummm ....
-MT Head
PS - I am still in the I think we somehow get both camp.
Even if you live in some delusion where mirrodin is cooler than phyrexia, you still must concede that phyrexia is older.
My point wasn't that they should hold off in giving us the cool new thing. (Yes Phyrexia is cool.) My point is that they don't have to take away that other thing to give us something new.
-MT Addition is double plus plus Subtraction
They'll probably release Mirrodin Pure in something like five years after the Phyrexians take over another plane.
But what if you were to completely separate each side, though? "The Father of Machines is coming. Destroyer./Karn is coming. Our saviour" What if Yawgmoth is back, finally? Karona said she ran into him... That, and what if Yawgmoth/Karn is different than what was expected and now the Mirrans and Phyrexians band together? O.o Sword of War and (Peace) anyone? Urabrask is called the Hidden One, and so is Yawgmoth... hmmmm...
Karona's spiritual journey has been retconned into a vision or simply a mistake. They didn't want everything Urza did to be so completely for nothing (Even with this block, he still destroyed the plane of Phyrexia, killed Yawgmoth and weakened the Phyrexians).
The matter of the Phyrexians' power level is really quite interesting. We never really get much of an indication of how the war is going, but it feels like the Phyrexians should win easily. Old Phyrexia would've taken over Mirrodin within the blink of an eye. Given that they nerfed the power of planeswalkers, Phyrexia should pretty much become the new biggest threat in the multiverse.
I fully agree with this. I honestly expected them to drag this out until previews started, then started the first week with a huge feature article. The video was really cool and you can tell that a lot of work went into it, but it was a bit anti-clim
The new Titan arts are wonderful, but I am sad to only get alternate art for three of the five Titans. Primeval in particular needs new art much more than Inferno or Grave.
Okay. Not surprising that the bad guys won. You don't re-introduce a big bad like that just to have them defeated (this block, at least). I maintain it would have been a more enjoyable "trick" to have it called Mirrodin Pure, but have the reveal be that it's now "purely Phyrexian".
I am in agreement, that would have been cool. It's not like there couldn't ever be some other New Phyrexia if they were driven from Mirrodin. "All it takes is one drop" and all that.
The new Titan arts are wonderful, but I am sad to only get alternate art for three of the five Titans. Primeval in particular needs new art much more than Inferno or Grave.I am in agreement, that would have been cool. It's not like there couldn't e
The new Titan arts are wonderful, but I am sad to only get alternate art for three of the five Titans. Primeval in particular needs new art much more than Inferno or Grave.
I guess Sun Titan is already a promo card, and Primeval Titan is too valuable. People with no interest at all in the game would be signing up just for the Primeval Titan (and no one would want to get the game for one of the platforms that offered a different titan).
I guess [c]Sun Titan[/c] is already a promo card, and [c]Primeval Titan[/c] is too valuable. People with no interest at all in the game would be signing up just for the [c]Primeval Titan[/c] (and no one would want to get the game for one of the plat
Maybe they could do a tournament where Sun Titan is the participation prize and Primeval is the winner prize. Not that I really approve of that sort of thing, but I'd accept it if it was the only way to get the new pictures made.
Maybe they could do a tournament where Sun Titan is the participation prize and Primeval is the winner prize. Not that I really approve of that sort of thing, but I'd accept it if it was the only way to get the new pictures made.
Okay, how annoyed am I that they announced the name of the set/outcome of the war yesterday when I was busy with work and ridiculousness?
I mean, even though I knew that, it kind of stank to see the new set name in a random article and then be like "Wait, what, when was this officially announced?! Yesterday? Argh."
I'm really not sure why they bothered to keep it such a secret, tbh. I didn't mind them doing that as much as some other folks did, I just think it really fell flat. I mean, the progression was always obvious.
But in terms of whether Phyrexia winning is cool: IMO yes, yes it is. Way too often, the good guys win just because they're the good guys. So yay for the villains winning.
Though I'm not so sure about this whole "Karn will save us" vo thing in the ad. First of all, I loathe what's become of Karn anyway -- the guy is like Galvatron with a guilt complex to go with his crazy instead of just a rage. Someone kill him off already, please.
(Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen. But dangit, I wanted an amazing, larger than life new Father of Machines who'd be all epic and terrifying, not someone I want to give some Kleenex. I love Phyrexia dearly, but whoever made that creative decision seriously needs some nerve-stripping that isn't part of the compleation process. Gah.)
So yeah, I think they're telegraphing that he's going to do some huge amazing Hero Thing at some point and redeem everybody and I'm bored thinking about it when it hasn't even happened yet. Yawn.
Oh well, at least Phyrexia is generally amazing and really well-thought-out and nifty.
And wins.
Yay.
Okay, how annoyed am I that they announced the name of the set/outcome of the war yesterday when I was busy with work and ridiculousness?I mean, even though I knew that, it kind of stank to see the new set name in a random article and then be like "W
The important thing to remember about Karn is that his powersource is(was?) a purified Heartstone that is used to corrupt the old Phyrexians. As for Karn in "New Phyrexia" I hope he has a Planeswalker card to help us determine where he stands with his abilities.
Also like on Star Trek, Phyrexia is a monotonous civilization similar to the Borg, but may provide interesting conflict in the future. Just remember everything need not be about them.
The important thing to remember about Karn is that his powersource is(was?) a purified Heartstone that is used to corrupt the old Phyrexians. As for Karn in "New Phyrexia" I hope he has a Planeswalker card to help us determine where he stands with hi
Karn is a special character. He was created when Urza, Geraerd,and the Legacy were merged... What's to say some of Yagmowth wasn't merged too?
Phyrexia was not always EVIL. Before the petty little bully discovered it, it was a raw machine world... Colorless like Mirrodin without the fleshy bits. These new phyrexians were not evolved in a dark, colorless plane but in a world with five suns constantly pulling, and their new father created that world so the shoul fit better than before.
The key danger is that phyrexians possessed the ability to BUILT planar gates.... When they snag a planeswalker that has been to zendikar BAD THINGS happen. Think a certain being is setting them up because he needs really big bang to get his game on. Dominaria can always use another hollow moon.
Karn is a special character. He was created when Urza, Geraerd,and the Legacy were merged... What's to say some of Yagmowth wasn't merged too? Phyrexia was not always EVIL. Before the petty little bully discovered it, it was a raw machine world... Co
Question: Besides my upstanding moral character, what's to prevent me from obtaining a code and visiting multiple stores to claim a full playset of shiny awesomeness? Likewise, what's to stop me from posting said code on the interblag and having my million closest friends use it to get themselves some shiny shiny goodness?
Question: Besides my upstanding moral character, what's to prevent me from obtaining a code and visiting multiple stores to claim a full playset of shiny awesomeness? Likewise, what's to stop me from posting said code on the interblag and having my m
Question: Besides my upstanding moral character, what's to prevent me from obtaining a code and visiting multiple stores to claim a full playset of shiny awesomeness? Likewise, what's to stop me from posting said code on the interblag and having my million closest friends use it to get themselves some shiny shiny goodness?
In an age of technology, when you are recieving a -digital- code, you really want to know whats keeping you from breaking the system? The code will be put back in by the vendor to check its authenticity, and then you will get the coresponding card. Then the code becomes invalidated because its been used.
Thats what seems most likely, as it is the most simple process.
In an age of technology, when you are recieving a -digital- code, you really want to know whats keeping you from breaking the system?The code will be put back in by the vendor to check its authenticity, and then you will get the coresponding card. Th
Question: Besides my upstanding moral character, what's to prevent me from obtaining a code and visiting multiple stores to claim a full playset of shiny awesomeness? Likewise, what's to stop me from posting said code on the interblag and having my million closest friends use it to get themselves some shiny shiny goodness?
In an age of technology, when you are recieving a -digital- code, you really want to know whats keeping you from breaking the system? The code will be put back in by the vendor to check its authenticity, and then you will get the coresponding card. Then the code becomes invalidated because its been used.
Thats what seems most likely, as it is the most simple process.
Yes, I do want to know. Because in order for them to maintain the codes, they would need for every single game store to have access to some sort of system that would monitor the codes. It's not impossible, but it would be annoying to deal with considering that as far as I know, no such system is currently in place. So I'm expecting that either it IS possible to cheat the system or there will be problems with redeeming cards due to technical incompetence on the end of at least some of the gaming stores.
Alsoalso: I expect they'll have details about how soon you have to buy the game in order to get the card?
In an age of technology, when you are recieving a -digital- code, you really want to know whats keeping you from breaking the system?The code will be put back in by the vendor to check its authenticity, and then you will get the coresponding card. Th
Grave Titan looks like he is playing a death metal guitar solo.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?
I have it on good authority that this is the song Grave Titan is shredding to:
Oh, and sweet promos.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?[/quote]I have it on good authority that this is the song [c]Grave Titan[/c] is shredding to:Oh, and sweet promos.
Grave Titan looks like he is playing a death metal guitar solo.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?
>death metal >metallica >slayer facedesk
my mistake 1,000 apologies, allow me to correct myself and with great rapture. i guess it did say "death metal" which 80's thrash continum now antipscygoglin of whatever metallica is currently metallica, doesn't quite genreise into (genreise jon-ray ize, def: made up two seconds ago to categorise MEWZACK) "big-bad-i'm-valid-and not-a-poser-so-underground-noones-ever-heard-of-it-and-the-whole-band-killed... varg varsnees)-because-that-is-so-death-metal-death-metal" apropriately.
i was actually first imagining a giant battle ensuing and pictured "for whom the bell tolls" but i really like the chorus which is straight out of the old testament i.e. "reeping across the land..", (a giant scythe... conection ehhn?) and slayer "angel of death" i.e. with sewing people together like zombies please excuse the way my brain works, my poor immagination and apparent entire lack of musical understanding. please, no face desking. my mos favorite band is actually zimmer's hole.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?[/quote]>death metal >metallica >slayer facedesk[/quote]my mistake 1,000 apologies, allow me to correct myself and with great rapture. i guess it did say "death
Yes, I do want to know. Because in order for them to maintain the codes, they would need for every single game store to have access to some sort of system that would monitor the codes. It's not impossible, but it would be annoying to deal with considering that as far as I know, no such system is currently in place.
Most stores have a computer with internet access and a web browser *somewhere*, believe it or not. And I'm pretty sure there's a WPN signin system that's used for things like requesting these promos in the first place.
Hacking on an 'is this code used yet?' system could probably be done by a blind monkey in his sleep.
Most stores have a computer with internet access and a web browser *somewhere*, believe it or not. And I'm pretty sure there's a WPN signin system that's used for things like requesting these promos in the first place.Hacking on an 'is this code used
The trick isn't making an "Is this code used yet?" It's making one that is: A. Easy to use B. Difficult to hack/abuse
Ah well, there's no point arguing over theoreticals. I'm sure Hasbro has a plan that will work. When was the last time a corporate giant screwed up an internet based system?
The trick isn't making an "Is this code used yet?" It's making one that is:A. Easy to useB. Difficult to hack/abuseAh well, there's no point arguing over theoreticals. I'm sure Hasbro has a plan that will work. When was the last time a corporate gian
I'm pretty sure he meant that comment to be ironic. Otherwise, there'd be no need to look further than MTGO.
news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20041729-75.h...[/quote]I'm pretty sure he meant that comment to be ironic. Otherwise, there'd be no need to look further than MTGO.
I hope that the mistake on the Grave Titan artist credit isn't going to be reflected on the actual card. I like Lucas Graciano's version better and I'd be disappointed if he wasn't properly credited.
I hope that the mistake on the Grave Titan artist credit isn't going to be reflected on the actual card. I like Lucas Graciano's version better and I'd be disappointed if he wasn't properly credited.
Grave Titan looks like he is playing a death metal guitar solo.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?
I have it on good authority that this is the song Grave Titan is shredding to:
Oh, and sweet promos.
This made my day.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?[/quote]I have it on good authority that this is the song [c]Grave Titan[/c] is shredding to:Oh, and sweet promos.[/quote]This made my day.
Grave Titan looks like he is playing a death metal guitar solo.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?
>death metal >metallica >slayer facedesk
my mistake 1,000 apologies, allow me to correct myself and with great rapture. i guess it did say "death metal" which 80's thrash continum now antipscygoglin of whatever metallica is currently metallica, doesn't quite genreise into (genreise jon-ray ize, def: made up two seconds ago to categorise MEWZACK) "big-bad-i'm-valid-and not-a-poser-so-underground-noones-ever-heard-of-it-and-the-whole-band-killed... varg varsnees)-because-that-is-so-death-metal-death-metal" apropriately.
Funny thing is, I mentioned several times I like Slayer and I was recently told my musical insights have no validity because I like "death metal." The youngins need to make up their minds.
Absolutely!!! hahaha, metallica's "creeping death", or slayer's "angel of death" perhaps?[/quote]>death metal >metallica >slayer facedesk[/quote]my mistake 1,000 apologies, allow me to correct myself and with great rapture. i guess it did say "death
Titan Forge was already discussed in one of Doug Beyer's articles. But I wonder if seeing this art the day after the revelation of those alt-art Titans is significant somehow.
Titan Forge was already discussed in one of Doug Beyer's articles. But I wonder if seeing this art the day after the revelation of those alt-art Titans is significant somehow.
Am I the only one who doesn't get excited by basic lands being why the set's card count is bigger? That just means that we get basic lands in packs. Whoo. And why not at least try to make basic lands exciting by giving us full art? At this point in time, I think the enjoyment of full art lands is high enough that non-full art lands should just be done away with anyway.
Am I the only one who doesn't get excited by basic lands being why the set's card count is bigger? That just means that we get basic lands in packs. Whoo. And why not at least try to make basic lands exciting by giving us full art? At this point
Awesome!! Sooo happy they didn't just get one artist for each land type then cut the art in half an slap each side onto two different cards this time, it was extremely lazy. This way we get to see more of the plane from completely different perspectives (and artists =D)
Go art team!!
Awesome!! Sooo happy they didn't just get one artist for each land type then cut the art in half an slap each side onto two different cards this time, it was extremely lazy. This way we get to see more of the plane from completely different perspecti
I bought the first one with all the expansion and the minute i've seen this one I bought it but why can't I get the premium deck only cause I live in quebec??????
I bought the first one with all the expansion and the minute i've seen this one I bought it but why can't I get the premium deck only cause I live in quebec??????
Going to be stupidly expensive to keep up my 'all tribes' record.
