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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 8:33AM #11
Fenaris0
Date Joined: Aug 9, 2009
Posts: 25
Day 2 Standard Penetration numbers (40%+ penetration highlighted with 4+ decks):

Deck  Day 1 Day 2 Penetration
Valakut  105 35 33.3%
UB Control  100 30 30.0%
Caw-Go  67 30 44.8%
Kuldotha Red  36 13 36.1%
Vampires  34 12 35.3%
Boros  28 13 46.4%
Quest  18 10 55.6%
RUG  15 6 40.0%
UW Control  15 3 20.0%
GW Aggro  11 3 27.3%
Tempered Steel  9 4 44.4%
Mono Red  8 2 25.0%
BUG  6 1 16.7%
Eldrazi Ramp  6 1 16.7%
Infect  4 3 75.0%
Mono Green Ramp  4 1 25.0%
Elves  3 0 0.0%
URb Tezzeret Control  3 2 66.7%
Mass Polymorph  2 1 50.0%
White Weenie  2 1 50.0%
Allies  1 1 100.0%
Bant Aggro  1 0 0.0%
Grixis Control  1 0 0.0%
Mono Black  1 0 0.0%
Naya  1 0 0.0%
RG Aggro  1 0 0.0%
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 8:58AM #12
sperry
Date Joined: Jan 6, 2006
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Feb 11, 2011 -- 7:01AM, The_Cardfather wrote:

I enjoy Rich, and I could listen to him commentate all day. Even play by play on podcasts were clear enough to know what was going on w/out the video. I think most of us are used to how pro sports are broadcast. MTG would have to be broadcast more like Golf flipping between the matches (like the Worlds T8 was) while providing the hand/table coverage of poker.  The trick is that MTG has a much more complicated board state than poker, so you would actually have to show that while keeping a mockup of the players hands in the bottom frame.

The cost, however comes with a lot more videography. A lot more cameras and a production crew that can put it togeather on the fly. One of the things I HATE about ggslive is all the random BS between matches, but without a roaming camera allowing commentators to be followed around viewing the floor, discussing the standings et. There really isn't that much to talk about.






I don't like the talking in between matches on ggslive, but it's a hell of a lot better than what we get now, which is absolutely nothing.  Wizards spends countless dollars paying for and marketing the pro tour.  It's just mind boggling that they don't pay to have it broadcast.  It is clearly not a particularly expensive endeavor, since GGSlive was doing it supported solely through donations.  Wizards is even paying people to go out there and do coverage! Make BDM and Rich earn their keep, rather than doing 3 deck techs and a wrap up at the end of the day.  So frustratring!

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 9:21AM #13
seydaneen
Date Joined: Apr 1, 2006
Posts: 641
round 14 standings are wrong. please fix
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 11:27AM #14
orcishartillery
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2003
Posts: 1,259
Thanks to Wizards for creating a forum thread for this event, and linking to it from the coverage pages!  I appreciate being able to comment on the matches and see what other people are saying about the event.  (Despite much of the discussion being complaints about the coverage. )
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 12:07PM #15
Robyrt
Date Joined: Jun 22, 2009
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On the bright side, combo has been dethroned.
On the dark side, Stoneforge Mystic has officially replaced Elspeth as this year's board dominating win condition.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 11, 2011 - 1:55PM #16
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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Feb 11, 2011 -- 7:01AM, The_Cardfather wrote:

I enjoy Rich, and I could listen to him commentate all day. Even play by play on podcasts were clear enough to know what was going on w/out the video. I think most of us are used to how pro sports are broadcast. MTG would have to be broadcast more like Golf flipping between the matches (like the Worlds T8 was) while providing the hand/table coverage of poker.  The trick is that MTG has a much more complicated board state than poker, so you would actually have to show that while keeping a mockup of the players hands in the bottom frame.




That would be hard to do the mockup, but the sports comparison is not far off. With Rich and Brian they have the classic play-by-play/color man setup covered. Rich's voice is perfect for the play-by-play as long as he stays in his lane and feeds Brian properly. Too often both commentators go off and tangents until Brian says something like "hey we should talk about what just happened in this game." And if the camera happened to be in a close-up of one of the players flicking his cards during that stretch, it's often hard to piece together what just happened no matter how much attention is paid by the viewer. (Compare this to the 2000 Super Bowl, the best game no one got to see because the camera spent too much time on Mrs Warner and Jeff Fisher while the game was being played, and Al Michaels and Boomer Esaison spent the game arguing instead of telling us what we missed.)

As far as "listening" to Rich, I think that's the key. They have to assume in the booth that we cant see anything because much of the time it is hard to make things out on the table with the terrible resolution and glare of the card sleeves. That means summing up the game state more frequently and declaring each card as it is played. If they do that there is still enough time for all the special-interest elements. They have the pieces for a good announcing team in place, if only they prioritize correctly.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 12, 2011 - 12:17AM #17
zpikduM
Date Joined: Nov 11, 2009
Posts: 2,052
Anyone know how to fix a really choppy stream?
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 12, 2011 - 12:57AM #18
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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Argh Rich and Brian are demonstrating why I don't like limited as a webcast. This is the first block in years where I am not that familiar with the cards and can't see them anyway. and they sit there are babble on tangents, sometimes making only passing references to the game. I am losing huge chunks of the whats and the whys. 

@zpikduM: I would make sure nothing non-essential is running, wired conenction, that's about all I could say. Hope that gets it corrected for you.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 12, 2011 - 1:21AM #19
YoshiOfADown
Date Joined: Mar 1, 2008
Posts: 288

Feb 12, 2011 -- 12:57AM, Hacimen wrote:

Argh Rich and Brian are demonstrating why I don't like limited as a webcast. This is the first block in years where I am not that familiar with the cards and can't see them anyway. and they sit there are babble on tangents, sometimes making only passing references to the game. I am losing huge chunks of the whats and the whys. 

@zpikduM: I would make sure nothing non-essential is running, wired conenction, that's about all I could say. Hope that gets it corrected for you.


Every card they talk about appears to the right of the feed.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 12, 2011 - 1:59AM #20
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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I'm aware of the sidebar, and not only does it not cover every card they talk about, they don't talk about every card anyway. I was watching them babble in the last limiited game and I could not see a card Guillome played but it killed something. They never actually circled back to the play. Rich should be calling every card that moves and periodically updating the game state.
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