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2 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2010 - 11:40PM #11
Cathaldus
Date Joined: May 31, 2008
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Dec 1, 2010 -- 10:27PM, CadaverousBl00m wrote:

@Cathaldus: Are we allowed to edit the post with the submitted deck, right up until closing time? Capitan has given me too many good suggestions (to his own detriment, when it comes to winning contests)!




Yes, of course.  You can edit the original posted deck list, post the newly revised deck list (I think that this would be the easiest to follow) or post a new deck list entirely.  So long as you indicate exactly which version of exactly which deck is the one that you want to count for your official submission, you can do whichever you'd like.  If you decide to change the original post, you should indicate that you did so in a new post (as I'll try to keep the original post up-to-date with the official submissions.

Captain, which of your two decks is your current submission, the Black Control deck or the Green/White Enchantment Aggro deck?

I've been thinking about a "Big Suspend" control deck.  The idea is to suspend big creatures early and control the board until they resolve.  Since the board-control is bounce-based, I have early creatures with etb effects to double-dip with.  This is what I have so far:

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2010 - 6:59AM #12
helphelpe
Date Joined: Jun 26, 2004
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I am going to join the contest too. I like the idea of a pauper multiplayer deck and I am curious to see what we can all come up with. I haven't got a deck yet, I am currently working on a deck (since I read this thread this morning I have been following classes all day and thinking about a cool deck at the same time).

I don't actively play pauper (although I do have a common combo deck, simply because I had the cards anyway). But if I spot a cool deck (of my own or someone elses creation) I will buy and play it (it is pauper so even if I have none of the cards, it shouldn't be expensive to do).

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2010 - 11:39AM #13
Cathaldus
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I've drastically altered "The Devil's Suspenders" since last night.  I figured that would offer more board control than , and so came up with this list:

The Devil's Suspenders v. 2.0 Show

I also have the following list, which is a Blink deck:

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2010 - 12:43PM #14
Cathaldus
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Helphelpe - I love incorporating the always-powerful Trinket Mage package into Pauper.  One card that I discovered in my Gatherer searching that I've really grown quite fond of in the last 12 or 13 hours is Curfew .  It acts as a mini sweeper, but allows you to abuse etb effects.  I think including it as a 4-of is a real necessity here, as you can double-dip with your deck even easier (I'd say probably in place of the Aether Tradewinds and Sanctum Gargoyle .

CadaverousBloom - I like the deck a lot, but I don't like the idea of Corrupt in a deck, as it's not nearly as effective as it could be.  If you drop them, you could add another Sign in Blood and some other goodies.  Guardian of the Guildpact seems like it would be an ideal finisher here, as it would have protection from your sweepers and can hasten the clock you set.

Captain_Estaban - I love the aura deck, it sets a strong, aggressive clock backed up with life-gain (which allows you to be even more aggressive).  Instead of the Terramorphic Expanse and Tranquil Thicket , though, you could try out Sejiri Steppe and Khalni Garden .  You can bounce both of them back with your Sanctuary to double-dip their etb effects, which can provide you with a means of punching through for damage or a creature to possibly enchant.

As for the black deck, you seem like you'd have enough board control between your Rats and Pestilence that you wouldn't need the Gatekeeper .  I think that you'd get more out of Liliana's Specter , since it both disrupts and evades, or something like Gravedigger , which can recur your Rats (among other things).  Dark Ritual seems like it might be a little iffy in this deck.  Seems like a really viscious deck.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2010 - 10:34PM #15
capitan_estaban
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2008
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@Cathaldus, I am going to have to disagree with you on the Sejiri Steppe addition, although Khalni Garden isn't a bad choice since it gives me another target for my auras (the deck is kind of creature light). I don't think I need help punching through, as Shield of the Oversoul grants evasion to half the creatures, and Rancor / Armadillo Cloak give trample which is more than enough "evasion" to punch through damage. I will confess that a very defensive deck with half or more of the deck walls might be an issue. Ideally though an indestrutible trampling threat will eventually kill my opponents (especially once Ancestral Mask hits the table). My biggest worry is targeted removal in response to Rancor, or SotO (hence the inclusion of Vines of Vastwood.


As for the black deck, you are probably right that it needs more disruption. Liliana's Specter or Cadaver Imp would probably be good additions...but what to drop. I don't think dropping Dark Ritual is the best choice. The biggest problem with Crypt Rats/Pestilence is that you have to invest 3-4 mana before you can use their ability. Usually you are casting them because it is vitally important that you kill what is on the field quickly. Dark Ritual allows you to do that. I also don't mind using the tempo to cast 2 or so on turn 2-3 to draw 3-5 cards with Syphon Mind and not have to stop going. You might be right though. The deck maybe should focus more on disruption, instead of playing carsd that require other cards to be useful.


Your blink deck leaves much to be desired in my book. I would expect to see either...
Momentary Blink / Turn to Mist
Venerated Teacher
Mulldrifter
+ Common Levelers in


or
Momentary Blink / Turn to Mist
Titanic Bulvox
Treespring Lorian
Rush of Knowledge
Wormfang Drake
Metamorphosis / Energy Tap
maybe even


Ivory Giant ?
Errant Ephemeron
Durkwood Baloth
Dragon Wings /  Dragon Fangs / Dragon Scales


Your suspenders deck definately needs Burnt Offering / Energy Tap and Rush of Knowledge .


As for what which entry is official, lets leave it the Aura beatdown for now.


@CadaverousBloom,
I have to agree here, Corrupt isn't worth it. Even in monoblack, Blood Tithe will almost always gain your more life, and will result in a bigger life swing.


@Helphelpe,
I like the Momentary Blink to ensure you can find your cloudposts via Expedition Map (as well as general mana fixing). I think you should include Wayfarer's Bauble in your toolbox as well. I would also like to see something like Alexi's Cloak to make sure that the Ulamog's Crusher sticks (I don't think 2 Hindering Light are going to cut it)...although now that I think of it, if you wait till yo hit 10 anyway, you should be able to blink once on the turn you cast it, and 2 times flashing it back next turn). Nice control deck though with the best Pauper finsher.


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-4 Mulldrifter
+4 Accumulated Knowledge - Can be searched for with Merchant Scroll, and draws more cards, and costs 1 less.
-1 Errant Ephemeron
+1 Temporal Fissure - To make sure the board is clear the turn after I go off.
I may make a couple of more changes to this deck, but I am fairly satisfied with its current state. This version doesn't try to worry about what my opponents are doing, which might be a problem. I may have to add more control elements. I added Temporal Fissure to clear the board of all my opponents permanents, which should probably be enough to secure victory. I could add 1x Lotus Petal and Grapeshot , but I would have to add more than a single Feldon's Cane to ensure that I cast 20x Y Players total spells, which I don't like.

Pauper High Tide
20xIsland

4x Cloud of Faeries
3x Errant Ephemeron
3x Ulamog's Crusher
1x Feldon's Cane

4x High Tide
4x Merchant Scroll
4x Accumulated Knowledge
4x Ideas Unbound
4x Snap
4x Frantic Search
4x Rush of Knowledge
1x Temporal Fissure


This deck attempts to go off on turn 3-4, and draw the entire deck. At which point you should have 3 8/8 Annihilator 2, 4 4/4 fliers, and a couple of 2/2s and 1/1s. It is unlikely that anyone can deal with that many threats (since pauper is missing sweepers), so you should be able to win in a couple of turns. The Feldon's Cane is there so that you can shuffle your spells back into your library if you need to do it all over again.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 03, 2010 - 3:41AM #16
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My main point of Multi-Pauper was that it's like when we were first playing.  Our decks were pretty common based, without any really good rares.  Since we were new, we didn't have enough to regularly call upon the rare (unless you were Spike, who called his one
Serra Angel and his Steel of the Godhead almost every other game), so you made due with what you had.  No sweepers, few finishers and a hole lotta' stuff, crammed together.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 03, 2010 - 9:04AM #17
Cathaldus
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Captain - you've thoroughly schooled me (in the nicest possible way).  You're 100% right about the Blink deck.  I was actually working on a leveler deck, but didn't think about using it in a Blink shell (mostly because I was fixated on how the levelers themselves didn't synergize with blink effects).  And I have no idea why I didn't think about using morph creatures, since I've used More-Different Akroma the same way before.  I've completely revamped the deck and split it into the two different forms that you suggestions.

Beware the Weeping Angels v 2.0 Show

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The Devil's Suspenders v 2.5 Show

ArtVenn, I really think that you need more creatures in all but your sliver deck.  The first deck has no creatures that are impressively built (even for pauper) and are on a 1:1 ratio with auras.  The :u deck is fine, but Steel of the Godhead seems like a bit of a waste since only one creature gets the full benefit from it.  I really don't like Panic Attack in the sliver deck.  It seems to me that the deck would get much more out of Branching Bolt , which can outright kill up to two creatures.  Your final deck just doesn't seem to be made with multiplayer in mind.  It has only 8 creatures, both of which are expensive and rely on being suspended.  This could work fine, but your removal, which you're absolutely dependent upon in your defenseless early stages, only hits one-at-a-time (which is only an issue because you're so heavily reliant upon it).  With so few creatures, it seems like it would suffer a LOT from decks carrying Curfew , Pestilence , Crypt Rats , Abyssal Gatekeeper , Innocent Blood , Undo , etc... all of which are proving themselves to be populare choices.  I just think that you need more creatures in general.

Oh, and Mr. Spike got Serra Angel every game because he admitted stacking his deck to increase his odds of doing so.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 03, 2010 - 12:57PM #18
Cathaldus
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So this is my attempt at a Stax deck.  I attempt to suspend one of my two finishers early, then try to keep people off both lands and creatures until they resolve.  Grave Peril should slow things down even further since nobody wasants their creature killed right away.  Ideally I'd suspend a creature turn one, have a turn 2 Akki Blizzard-Herder and a turn 3 Abyssal Gatekeeper + Innocent Blood , putting everrybody back 2 creatures and a land.  In a format where the Ravnica karoo lands seem to be really popular, this seems like a really strong deck.

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Here's a stab at a Token deck:

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2010 - 2:01AM #19
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Jack "Suicide" Black featuring Rob Zombie

Creatures (24)
4x Maggot Carrier
4x Shepherd of Rot
4x Vengeful Dead
4x Gangrenous Zombies
4x Infectious Horror
4x Urborg Syphon-Mage

Spells (12)
4x Syphon Mind
4x Blood Tithe
4x Syphon Soul

Lands (24)
16x Snow-Covered Swamp
4x Desert
4x Barren Moor

Really straight forward suicide black deck that tries to end the game as quickly as possible. Keep in mind that I'm not worried about having cards like Infectious Horror attack more than once, I'm really only looking for 10 effects that hit for 2 dmg. Carrier only does 1 but Tithe does 3 to compensate a little. I can't decide if I want Infernal Caretaker over Syphon-Mage, it's a tough call. One is a bit better in the long run and the other in the short run. I can't think of a better draw spell than Syphon Mind since Sign in Blood is so incredibly weak. Might have to swap [/c] in here.
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My guide to Red multiplayer cards and strategies:
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2010 - 4:52AM #20
helphelpe
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@ Cathuldus: I like the idea of Curfew and I am going to fit it in. Your token deck could use some Echoing Courage

@ Capitan: I dislike Wayfarer's Bauble because if I need a land now, I will get an artifact land, and otherwise my expedition maps can get Cloudpost . Hindering Light is mainly against big X spells on my head (played it for a long time in my UWR angel deck, right up until I got Cunning Wish es) and that it also protects my creatures if needed is just gravy. I originally did consider Neurok Stealthsuit to use just like you suggested Alexi's Cloak but I am unsure if it is worth the card slot and me being unable to blink/return the creature.
 
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