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3 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 10:01AM
#21
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Date Joined:
Jul 28, 2009
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Hello,
where can I find any examples of decks with Bloodchief Ascension? I tried to put it in my mono-black Vampire deck, but it didn`t actually worked out. Thought of it as of nice support card, but not one to build a deck around.
I tend to disagree, I have a B/R discard deck which uses it as a back-up plan. If i don't have or lose my liliana's caress this one works for me. I play some burn (3 bursts & 3 bolts) and in combination with all mt flyers it works like a charm. (on MWS anyhow...) But you do need a back-up plan.
Chandra ablaze rocks in B/R discard! ;P
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3 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 10:59AM
#22
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What up JVL, Here is my first run at your challenge this week for the Bloodchief Ascension Deck. Let me know what you think still need help on a lot of things including the Side-Board. Hit me up if you have any questions, look forward to see what you write up next week. // Lands 4 [ROE] Swamp (4) 4 [SOM] Blackcleave Cliffs 4 [M11] Dragonskull Summit 3 [M11] Mountain (2) 4 [WWK] Lavaclaw Reaches 4 [M11] Terramorphic Expanse // Creatures 4 [M11] Ember Hauler 4 [ZEN] Gatekeeper of Malakir 4 [SOM] Perilous Myr 3 [M11] Reassembling Skeleton
// Spells 3 [ZEN] Bloodchief Ascension 3 [M11] Sign in Blood 4 [M11] Lightning Bolt 4 [ZEN] Hideous End 1 [M11] Dark Tutelage 4 [ROE] Staggershock 2 [M11] Jinxed Idol 1 [SOM] Livewire Lash // Sideboard SB: 1 [M11] Sign in Blood SB: 1 [M11] Dark Tutelage SB: 1 [SOM] Livewire Lash
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3 years ago ::
Nov 05, 2010 - 6:06AM
#23
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Ok, here is my take on Bloodchief Ascension deck. This is similar to previous deck posted here, but in fact is just a slight change from this deck posted on www.mtg.ru/forums/strategy/topic421448.h... Main idea is to kill opp with Jinxed Idol or he can do it sacrificing creatures and losing life points from Bloodchief Ascension . There are some other cards that i would like to try in this deck, including Abyssal Persecutor to have "Plan B" in case something bad happened to Idol. Mimic Vat could also be helpful, giving infinite number of creatures to sacrifice. Speaking of Planeswalkers, Liliana Vess can substitute mad wizard Sarkhan the Mad here (which was in original deck). If you choose to include some more artifacts, Phylactery Lich can go in as well. Would like to here you comments. This deck is fun to play with. 1, Culling Dais 4, Jinxed Idol 4, Bloodghast 3, Mitotic Slime 4, Mortician Beetle 2, Nest Invader 4, Pawn of Ulamog 4, Viscera Seer 3, Bloodchief Ascension 2, Act of Treason 3, Consuming Vapors 4, Mark of Mutiny 9, Swamp 4, Dragonskull Summit 3, Khalni Garden 3, Lavaclaw Reaches 3, Raging Ravine
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3 years ago ::
Nov 05, 2010 - 7:11PM
#24
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I just can't seem to get the last few counters using my mono green infect deck. I'm thinking of shifting to a blue black manna base to get access to proliferate. my latest thought on a Blue Black infect deck is below.
4 Thrumming bird 2 Neurok invisimancer 4 Ichor Rats 4 Plague Stinger 1 Hand of Praetors 4 Ironclaw Myr
4 Steady Progress 4 Turn Aside 4 Distortion strike 3 Virulent Swipe 3 Grasp of Darkness
10 Islands 10 Swamp 4 Evolving Wilds
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3 years ago ::
Nov 05, 2010 - 9:36PM
#25
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Hey all, I know I might be a bit behind with the all-in-fect deck....but I found something absolutely ridiculous and put it in the deck. I put two livewire lash into the deck...+2 poison counter to target player everytime the equipped creature becomes the target of spells or abilities. Even more game winning right there. Thought you guys might enjoy that. Thanks!
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2010 - 4:26AM
#26
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I just can't seem to get the last few counters using my mono green infect deck. I'm thinking of shifting to a blue black manna base to get access to proliferate. my latest thought on a Blue Black infect deck is below.
4 Thrumming bird 2 Neurok invisimancer 4 Ichor Rats 4 Plague Stinger 1 Hand of Praetors 4 Ironclaw Myr
4 Steady Progress 4 Turn Aside 4 Distortion strike 3 Virulent Swipe 3 Grasp of Darkness
10 Islands 10 Swamp 4 Evolving Wilds
Pretty good. I would consider using a few more Hand of the Praetors (unless you don't have them) and Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon (unless again you don't have them). I'd suggest removing two of the Ichor Rats . Fast poison is nice but giving yourself four poison doesn't seen that great.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2010 - 3:53PM
#27
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Date Joined:
Dec 19, 2009
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Excellent job. This is what I expect from a BOAB article.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 11, 2010 - 11:36AM
#28
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Date Joined:
Jan 17, 2006
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I love how this deck went from Bloodchiefs ascension to "Vampires with ONE BCA".
Seriously, that's a whole bucket of fail.
Not that the Vampire deck is bad or anything, it's just that he doesn' use the BCA enchantment by the end of the game.
It seems to me that a more creative approch would be Goblins with splashed black BSA. Goblins currently try to run the Quest for the Goblin enchantment to make the deck 'power out' by turn 4 or so. Meanwhile they're vunerable to sweepers. If instead you went Turn 1 BCA, turn 2 Hasty Goblin, turn 2.5 Bolt (assuming new dual land from Scars). Turn 3 is goblin, Goblin Kicked, swing for 7 or so and power up the BCA. Now what ever your opponent plays to deal with the goblins is going to deal 2 to them plus pump your life total.
Sorry, but the deck migration just went to known vampire variants and didn't do much else. No innovative recurring offense and plinks of damage (such as a sacrifice outlet such as blade of the bloodchief , bloodghast with Kalastria Highborn)
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3 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2010 - 9:42PM
#29
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I think a Bloodchief Ascension-based deck is a bit sketchy right now. I am not saying it's impossible. Yes, a deck can be construded by I don't think it can be as competitive as the previously posted Infect deck. I actually tried using that deck and so far I've been getting good results. Here's the list that I made: Creatures: 4 Ichorclaw Myr 4 Blight Mamba 4 Necropede 4 Cystbearer 2 Corpsecur 18 Spells: 4 Vines of Vastwood 4 Groundswell 4 Assault Strobe 2 Giant Growth 2 Flame Slash 16 Equipment: 2 Livewire Lash 2 Lands: 4 Copperline Gorge 4 Teetering Peeks 4 Smoldering Spires 4 Verdant Catacombs 8 Forest Sideboard: 2 Corpsecur 2 Giant Growth 1 Livewire Lash 2 Putrefax 2 Flame Slash 4 Fling 2 Prey's Vengeance 15 Livewire Lash has great synergy with this deck. "Troll Shroud" is an understatement to what it does for this deck if ever it is in play. Turn 3 finishes are always exciting but if ever the games get dragged down to a slow, boggy, control matchup, the Lash is a great accompaniment to incremental Poison-ing of an opponent. I have even considered adding U in the mix just so I can play Trinket Mage to fetch it and play Distortion Strike as a utility card. I just haven't tried testing those. Also, Fling has been really great off the sideboard because it gives your deck extra Poison speed if you need it and also added evasion from Instant removal. Sac it for 1 Poison counter, why not? I hope this deck gets a competitive breakthrough. It's just really good! Especially considering how cheap the pieces are. Wiping the field with expensive Jace, the Metasculptor-powered decks around is also really fun.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 13, 2010 - 3:26AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 17, 2010
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Livewire Lash has great synergy with this deck. "Troll Shroud" is an understatement to what it does for this deck if ever it is in play. Turn 3 finishes are always exciting but if ever the games get dragged down to a slow, boggy, control matchup, the Lash is a great accompaniment to incremental Poison-ing of an opponent. I have even considered adding U in the mix just so I can play Trinket Mage to fetch it and play Distortion Strike as a utility card. I just haven't tried testing those.
Also, Fling has been really great off the sideboard because it gives your deck extra Poison speed if you need it and also added evasion from Instant removal. Sac it for 1 Poison counter, why not?
I hope this deck gets a competitive breakthrough. It's just really good! Especially considering how cheap the pieces are. Wiping the field with expensive Jace, the Metasculptor-powered decks around is also really fun. 
Livewire Lash is good, and when playing infect my biggest problems are with other fast decks that can match its creatures or even put more into play right away than I can. Having my first several creatures removed or blocked puts me into topdeck mode too soon, the Lash is a reusable source of damage that even makes my pump spells reach that much further.
However, Trinket Mage can't tutor the Lash because it costs 2. And Fling doesn't give poison counters, it just counts the power of the creature you sacrificed. Fling doesn't have infect and it is the source of the damage, not the creature.
The G/u version of infect can be pretty powerful though... in some ways Distortion Strike is better than Assault Strobe since it ignores blockers for two attacks and pumps the creature a bit. Counters and bounce can go further than Flame Slash in removing threats. I've tried a deck with just Distortion and one with a few counters too, and the blue spells have won me some games that would have been unwinnable otherwise.
Canopy Cover seems like an unlikely choice, given that people have the automatic "Auras are bad! Two-for-one!" reaction, but it has really performed well for me. It's cheap enough to sneak in when your opponent taps out - by casting a blocker on his turn 2 for example, you can Cover your attacker your turn 3 and still have a mana available to cast Groundswell . Or turn 4, if he taps out to cast a creature and remove your attacker next turn, with 4 mana you can cast a 2-drop and Cover it. Unless your opponent has bounce or enchantment kill, your attacker is hard to block and immune to targetted removal, but you can still target it with pump spells.
I think a combination of Canopy Cover and Livewire Lash should help against creature-heavy and removal-heavy decks. The deck is very powerful but loses if the game drags out too long. I think it could be a contender but we'll probably have to wait a few months for more options in Besieged to push it over the top.
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