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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 1:59AM #51
GreenBuster
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2008
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Nov 10, 2010 -- 11:29PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 11:22PM, JaketheLate wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 10:26PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 9:49PM, Raedien wrote:

I would gladly pay those prices for the decks in RL.




Same here. Especially with the white one. Just a single Karakas is by itself about 30 $.



please please PLEASE start releasing them for paper magic. I would love to get into legacy, and this seems like a great way to do it.




It would be. But they won't do it. Why? Because of this: www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x...




What cards in either of those decks are on the reserved list?  I couldn't find any, so it is possible to see these decks in paper form (even if unlikely).

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 2:53AM #52
Jakusotsu
Date Joined: Aug 14, 2003
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 1:48AM, aliasisudonomo wrote:

Uh... yeah, that's the point. "Legacy". As in the tournament format. As in 'the format which, of those cards actually played, is mostly just missing a bit of Urza's and Masques block now'.

If you expected stuff that wasn't already available, you expected wrong.



You're talking about the Legacy online format. I expected the format to become more like paper Legacy.

Thinking about it now, that task could have hardly been accomplished by releasing a handful of precon decks. So you're right, I was wrong. Case rested.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 5:17AM #53
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Date Joined: Jun 27, 2004
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Anyone else pissed looking at these online deck lists.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:25AM #54
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 5:17AM, Thrull_Champion wrote:

Anyone else pissed looking at these online deck lists.


Pissed about what? They're decent Legacy decks. I might buy the red one because I like the 4 price of progress and the chain lightnings.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:38AM #55
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LOL lookie there
a decent red burn deck after the fire and lighting was shown
amazing wizards can build good decks it seems
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 11:55AM #56
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As someone else mentioned it would be great if these were released in paper magic as well. They both look like good decks and would be a good starting point for someone getting into legacy. Plus nothing on the reserve list is in the decks. I hope the standard event decks are this good.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 12:01PM #57
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Nov 10, 2010 -- 11:29PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 11:22PM, JaketheLate wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 10:26PM, Dragon_Whelp wrote:

Nov 10, 2010 -- 9:49PM, Raedien wrote:

I would gladly pay those prices for the decks in RL.




Same here. Especially with the white one. Just a single Karakas is by itself about 30 $.



please please PLEASE start releasing them for paper magic. I would love to get into legacy, and this seems like a great way to do it.




It would be. But they won't do it. Why? Because of this: www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x...



The thing is that, unless I missed something, NONE of the cards in these decks are on the reserved list. At least, none of the nescessary ones are. I still think it's a fabulous idea, and I hope they do this in paper magic too. It would halp me and many others I know get into legacy.

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I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 3:14PM #58
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O_O WTF!  *warning nerd rage incomeing, warning nerd rage incomeing


seriously wizards, you put ready to go decks for legacy in a box for online folk, but we get comparative fail, this sux.  like for example we get fire and lightning for about 1.3333 repeating the price of these, it has 1 of quite a few relevant cards in the burn decks, whereas for online folk, you get a playset of the same cards for cheaper?   thats just being hypocritical and just wow, i call this not right and unfair....
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Sep 25, 2010 -- 8:31AM, Skibo_the_first wrote:

Well obviously goblins breed at a rate of millions of times per year, thus in a few years they had evolved into a new species... you know or....



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Sep 28, 2010 -- 7:00PM, Random-Miser wrote:

Your asking for proof that the ocean is wet, while your standing on the beach.



Feb 1, 2011 -- 3:42PM, K-Mogg wrote:

Are these rankings all anonymus?

Can I go rank everybody I think is mafia with 1 star?



•Collecting a complete foil set of Zendikar block both on Magic Online and in paper Magic does not entitle you to one (1) free Richard Garfield. Because that would be slavery, and slavery is bad.


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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 4:15PM #59
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 3:14PM, useless_mancer wrote:

O_O WTF!  *warning nerd rage incomeing, warning nerd rage incomeing


seriously wizards, you put ready to go decks for legacy in a box for online folk, but we get comparative fail, this sux.  like for example we get fire and lightning for about 1.3333 repeating the price of these, it has 1 of quite a few relevant cards in the burn decks, whereas for online folk, you get a playset of the same cards for cheaper?   thats just being hypocritical and just wow, i call this not right and unfair....




Its not unfair... the "Fire and Lightning" deck isn't meant to put people into legacy. Its meant to be just a fun burn deck for casual players, much like the previous sliver overlord. its meant to appeal to people who like fun foily decks. These decks are designed to get people a foot hold in legacy. Fair enough to want a paper version but don't make it sound like fire and lightning is being released to increase the supply of legacy-quality cards.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 6:07PM #60
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 4:15PM, Louisschiffer wrote:

Nov 11, 2010 -- 3:14PM, useless_mancer wrote:

O_O WTF!  *warning nerd rage incomeing, warning nerd rage incomeing


seriously wizards, you put ready to go decks for legacy in a box for online folk, but we get comparative fail, this sux.  like for example we get fire and lightning for about 1.3333 repeating the price of these, it has 1 of quite a few relevant cards in the burn decks, whereas for online folk, you get a playset of the same cards for cheaper?   thats just being hypocritical and just wow, i call this not right and unfair....




Its not unfair... the "Fire and Lightning" deck isn't meant to put people into legacy. Its meant to be just a fun burn deck for casual players, much like the previous sliver overlord. its meant to appeal to people who like fun foily decks. These decks are designed to get people a foot hold in legacy. Fair enough to want a paper version but don't make it sound like fire and lightning is being released to increase the supply of legacy-quality cards.




Yes, but after releasing their Fire and Lightning decklist a few days earlier, this is like a slap in the face to paper magic players: "We can build good precons!  But we won't do it for paper magic, because we want you to go hunt down $80 dual lands and tourney staples on the secondary market instead!"


I really do think they should make the older formats more accessible, and simply making less sets legal in Extended isn't the answer.  Now we have this huge disparity between Extended and Legacy, in terms of money you need to get started.  There should be some auxiliary way to reprint the older legacy staples (through means such as Duel Decks, From the Vault, Planechase/Archenemy, Precons), which would sell like hotcakes and also shouldn't majorly devalue existing print runs.



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