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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 4:38PM
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I'm assuming that if say the a lightning bolt is cast that Emerged Unscathed choosing red would protect the lot of 'em. Is this correct?
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 4:43PM
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Please autocard. Emerge Unscathed  => Emerge Unscathed . I'm assuming that if say the a lightning bolt is cast that Emerged Unscathed choosing red would protect the lot of 'em. Is this correct?
Yes. They all will have protection from red, so each Lightning Bolt  will be countered.
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 5:00PM
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Thank you and sorry about that. I keep forgetting. I do have another scenario. Would Windborne Charge  which targets two golems result in all the golems getting +4/+4 instead of +2/+2?
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 5:03PM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
Date Joined:
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Windborne Charge has more than one target, so it won't cause Precursor Golem  's ability to trigger at all.
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 5:03PM
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Thank you and sorry about that. I keep forgetting. I do have another scenario. Would Windborne Charge which targets two golems result in all the golems getting +4/+4 instead of +2/+2?
Windborne Charge has two targets. It won't get copied at all. Precursor Golem only copies a spell if it a) has exactly one target, and b) that target is a golem (permanent).
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 5:30PM
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Oh I'm sorry. I should read the full text of Precursor Golem I guess. My apologies.
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 6:50PM
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Thank you and sorry about that. I keep forgetting. I do have another scenario. Would Windborne Charge which targets two golems result in all the golems getting +4/+4 instead of +2/+2?
Windborne Charge has two targets. It won't get copied at all. Precursor Golem only copies a spell if it a) has exactly one target, and b) that target is a golem (permanent).
Are you sure about that last part? Since it doesn't say "Goblin permanent", shouldn't it also trigger if a spell targets Crib Swap  ?
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 6:55PM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
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"Golem" means "Golem permanent on the battlefield".
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 6:55PM
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Thank you and sorry about that. I keep forgetting. I do have another scenario. Would Windborne Charge which targets two golems result in all the golems getting +4/+4 instead of +2/+2?
Windborne Charge has two targets. It won't get copied at all. Precursor Golem only copies a spell if it a) has exactly one target, and b) that target is a golem (permanent).
Are you sure about that last part? Since it doesn't say "Goblin permanent", shouldn't it also trigger if a spell targets Crib Swap ?
A "Golem" is a "Golem permanent" and it only remains a "Golem" for as long as it stays on the battlefield. On the stack it is a "Golem spell" and in any other zone it is a "Golem card." Yes I'm sure, and no it wouldn't trigger:
109.2. If a spell or ability uses a description of an object that includes a card type or subtype, but doesn't include the word "card," "spell," "source," or "scheme," it means a permanent of that card type or subtype on the battlefield.
It says "Golem" and it doesn't say "card," "spell," "source," or "scheme," so it triggers whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only a single Golem permanent on the battlefield. It won't trigger when you cast a spell that targets a Crib Swap or a Nameless Inversion  .
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3 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2010 - 6:59PM
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Date Joined:
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Thank you and sorry about that. I keep forgetting. I do have another scenario. Would Windborne Charge which targets two golems result in all the golems getting +4/+4 instead of +2/+2?
Windborne Charge has two targets. It won't get copied at all. Precursor Golem only copies a spell if it a) has exactly one target, and b) that target is a golem (permanent).
Are you sure about that last part? Since it doesn't say "Goblin permanent", shouldn't it also trigger if a spell targets Crib Swap ?
A "Golem" is a "Golem permanent" and it only remains a "Golem" for as long as it stays on the battlefield. On the stack it is a "Golem spell" and in any other zone it is a "Golem card." Yes I'm sure, and no it wouldn't trigger:
109.2. If a spell or ability uses a description of an object that includes a card type or subtype, but doesn't include the word "card," "spell," "source," or "scheme," it means a permanent of that card type or subtype on the battlefield.
It says "Golem" and it doesn't say "card," "spell," "source," or "scheme," so it triggers whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only a single Golem permanent on the battlefield. It won't trigger when you cast a spell that targets a Crib Swap or a Nameless Inversion .
Thanks for the explanation.
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