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Switch to Forum Live View 9/29/2010 BoaB: "I Can't Take Much Myr of This"
3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 3:47PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 9:15PM #2
Dog_of_Justice
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This article makes the bizarre assumption that instant speed artifact removal won't be played.  Maybe it won't be *that* common pre-sideboard, but post?  When the current set is almost half artifacts?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 9:31PM #3
Jman22
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Sep 28, 2010 -- 9:15PM, Dog_of_Justice wrote:

This article makes the bizarre assumption that instant speed artifact removal won't be played.  Maybe it won't be *that* common pre-sideboard, but post?  When the current set is almost half artifacts?




He did after say this deck is trying to take advantage of the post-rotation black hole of "whadda ya play now?"

As for the article, I really like how you set it up. It flows very well, and the deck is rather cute. 

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 9:34PM #4
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Sep 28, 2010 -- 9:31PM, Jman22 wrote:

As for the article, I really like how you set it up. It flows very well, and the deck is rather cute. 


If it's like every other rotation ever, we've got about two weeks before everyone starts playing the same netdeck.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 9:41PM #5
Tremor88
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did he just forget about palladium myr ?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 10:06PM #6
Tap4Mana
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I was so close.... I sent him a deck that same week that focussed on a very similar combo.  2 Galvanizers and a Palladium Myr get you infinite mana, then blast a Comet Storm at the head, or you can infinitely activate Myr Propagator for infinite myr.  A god hand draw can win on turn 4.  Comet Storm may be a poor excuse for a Fireball, but it's a prerelease card datestamped with my birthday on it, so I've been waiting for a good deck to use it in.

But I was able to take a lot of advice on how to assemble a reliable combo deck in this environment (I always forget about scry's usefulness in a combo deck) and apply it to my deck.  How can I not be playing a combo deck in the sequel to the block that brought me the KCI deck?  :D
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 10:25PM #7
RPGsr4me
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I don't think the list has enough mana generating myr.  You have to remember that one needs to be alive for the combo.  
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 11:13PM #8
Astronautic_Bullfrog
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The first thing I thought of when I saw this combo was comparisons to scapeshift. A four mana combo card that can win games out of the blue in an otherwise agro deck. If "the myr deck" ends up being good enough, that sort of build might be dangerous. Anyone agree?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 11:41PM #9
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There is no need to run Palladium Myr since you aren't trying to get infinte mana. People often forget that getting infinite mana in and of itself doesn't do you any good; you need another card that can use the infinite mana (i.e. Comet Storm or Myr Propagator as mentioned). The problem with the mana route is it takes more cards to assemble, and thus is less reliable. This is essentially a 2-card combo since any mana myr will do. I kinda like Spell Pierce over Negate since it means you can combo off one turn earlier (with counter backup). Spell Pierce gets nowhere near the love it deserves. This is more of a true budget deck for all of those complainers. The only cards that would probably be changed in a nonbudget version woul be Forsee-->Jace and 4 basics-->Scaldind Tarns, but those chages really aren't all that necessary, and I think Forsee might actually be better than Jace here. 
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2010 - 11:55PM #10
RecurringSearch
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"I understand that it's competing with Jace, the Mind Sculptor at the same mana cost. Jace is certainly better in this deck, but decks that have no way to protect the planewalker may be better off with Foresee."


Powerful words.  Very interesting.


"The only non-red instant speed removal in the format is Doom Blade. This type of strategy is very strong until people start finding new ways to interact at instant speed."


My brain can't accept this.  I'm going to have to comb through the lists...it just CAN'T be true...


 

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