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Switch to Forum Live View 9/09/2010 TD: "Hammer Time!"
3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 5:54PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks Article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:12PM #2
Pegaweb
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KOTH = King of the Hill

...on a planeswalker that deals with mountains.

Your pun has been decoded by Inspector Owl. `|:>
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:15PM #3
Raedien
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YES!
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:18PM #4
Ribos
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Sep 8, 2010 -- 9:12PM, Pegaweb wrote:

KOTH = King of the Hill

...on a planeswalker that deals with mountains.

Your pun has been decoded by Inspector Owl. `|:>



Well done, good sir.

I've just gotta say this: Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle .

Suddenly, Mountains.dec seems more viable. The emblem ability will give red decks all the late-game gas they need. What I particularly like about Koth, though, is that he ONLY works in red decks. The decks running around standard now won't be able to make much of ANY use out of him, but he remains a potent weapon for the "right" decks. Definitely constructed worthy. 

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:22PM #5
funkyfritter
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I guess wizards got tired of having a top tier archetype without any chase mythics in it. They really pumped up the power level on this guy.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:28PM #6
PlatinumPersecutor
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2010
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He's really underwhelming. Like Sarkhan, he'll do great as long as your deck has multiples. But if you only have one, he's not going to work too well. Also, as it's been stated, he really needs to be in a mono-red/artifact deck to work extremely well... but I bet there will be exceptions to this, because, well, someone will have to prove themselves of being able to do so.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 9:42PM #7
DragonMudd
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-5: An ultimate that is basically a super-efficient Comet Storm




Let's try that again:

-5: Hecatomb for mountains.  (Without the cost and can't be disenchanted.)

Seriously, when the effect has already been put on a card, why try to contort a different card?  Just because you feel the need to call out a card that was actually played?  That's not because Hecatomb had a bad effect, just a bad cost.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 10:15PM #8
RPGsr4me
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2010
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Wow.  Ironically he fits right into a deck I was just making.  
These humans, their imaginations are strong.  Kill a thousand men and they will hate you.  Kill a million men and they will queue to face you.  But kill a single man and they will see monsters and devils in every shadow.  Kill a dozen men and they will scream and wail in the night, and they shall feel not hatred, but fear. 
Excerpt from Simon Spurrier's Lord of the Night
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 10:24PM #9
ZursApprentice
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I think some of you might be high . . . this guy is ridiculous.  I think he is the 2nd best PW (next to Jace).  First of all, the plus ability is insane.  Play him on turn 4, untap a mountain and swing, essentially with a 4/4 haste guy.  4/4 haste in red is really good. And as a plus ability!  Yes, this might leave you vulnerable to counter attack, which is why would be careful with using him like this, but versus some decks it would devastating.  Then, let's go to the ultimate.  After you have bashed with a 4/4 that is essentially immune to removal, all of your mountains become pingers.  5 mountains?  Your opponent is getting hit for five per turn.  As for me, I think those two abilities are arguably better than the minus ability.  It gives red insane inevitabilty.  As for the minus ability, I think this is obv to everyone, but it gets insane in bigger mono-red decks.  That mana is going to be ridiculous for stuff like Kargan Dragonlord and Comet Storm.  I see this as being playable only in mono-red, so probably will be more limited in scope, something akin to say Nissa Revane, but still very, very good.   
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 08, 2010 - 10:43PM #10
wormmaster
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2007
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Red is by far me least favorite color in magic. Out of all of my standard, legacy, and edh decks (19) i have 3 decks with red in it, and one is pauper and the other is my dragon tribal deck.

This guy gets my wheels turning for a mono red deck. Obviously his inability to protect himself will hurt, but him being a clock in and of himself is quite strong. The -2 seems pretty insane with the right combination of top of the curve spells.

I feel that koth will spawn some type of big mono red / artifact deck. It will propably be this deck that abuses lodestone golem and steelshaper along with some agressive artifacts / red creatures yet to be seen. bring in a couple moxes and suddenly it has a ton of acceleration. It seems pretty good to play Koth then immediatley drop golem maybe with a goblin guide out and a steelshaper. suddenly your clocking your opponent and its even harder for them to interact with you, let alone kill Koth!

You heard it here first mono-red artifact sly.
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