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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 9:59AM #321
ong312
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
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Sep 20, 2010 -- 6:03AM, Devell wrote:

Yeah I get that. Seem less than ideal in something like U/W control don't they.




U/W can run a full boat of them and be fine.

Look at it this way:

Turn 1: Colonnade
Turn 2: Mirrodin Land, Wall Of Omens
Turn 3: Basic, Wall Of Omens #2
Turn 4: Core Dual, Jace

Your mana is fixed for days, and no matter what you draw you can still go turn 2 wall and turn 6 theft card... which is a blessing for ANYTHING with trip color cost and not green.

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Mike Turian: While Mark Rosewater made Tarmogoyf, I made Tarmogoyf what he is today
Mark Rosewater: Would we ever reprint Tarmogoyf? Maybe.

I am Blue/Green


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 10:33AM #322
Devell
Date Joined: Mar 8, 2010
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Except you can't do that if your land drop for turn 6 is a scars dual.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 10:40AM #323
Devell
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Woo hoo...liquimetal coating. Whilst not an answer to pw's on its own it does let you shatter them or naturalize them or slice them in twain etc, you get the idea. Now this is more like it. I for one approve of this card.

Asceticism is also pretty chuffin insane.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 11:59AM #324
Razorgore
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Sep 20, 2010 -- 10:33AM, Devell wrote:

Except you can't do that if your land drop for turn 6 is a scars dual.




W/U control already has 6-8 CIPT lands to begin with, so it's not that big of a deal. The Scars duals are there for aggro decks trying to use color-heavy early drops, which is nice for black/anything.

The coating could be ridiculous if they print better artifact hate, or at least a recurrable artifact destruction engine.


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 12:28PM #325
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Sep 20, 2010 -- 11:59AM, Razorgore wrote:


The coating could be ridiculous if they print better artifact hate, or at least a recurrable artifact destruction engine.




Agreed. I started skimming for this already in green and don't have much.

Worst case scenario is that we can rescue style with venser and blink 187 guys like Acidic Slime.

Yay Bant.



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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 12:36PM #326
Devell
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Yeah i'd come to the same conclusion and done the same as you Niche. A recurrable artifact destruction engine would be pretty awesome.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 20, 2010 - 1:05PM #327
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Its just dumb that:

[Deck with recurring planeswalker destruction engine] < [Deck with recurring planeswalker destruction engine.... that also runs Planeswalkers]

You can't get around it or fight it.


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2010 - 12:55AM #328
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Why the hell is necrogen censer a mirran card?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2010 - 4:28AM #329
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Sep 21, 2010 -- 12:55AM, Devell wrote:

Why the hell is necrogen censer a mirran card?




MaRo posted the criteria for what they would mark as a phyrexian card, and the censer doesn't fit the criteria. It's a limited card anyway.


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 21, 2010 - 11:55AM #330
ong312
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So, I am thinking i can drop green from Destructive Force .

Koth Of the Hammer can fill that role.
old quotes from the Worldwake talk:
Mike Turian: While Mark Rosewater made Tarmogoyf, I made Tarmogoyf what he is today
Mark Rosewater: Would we ever reprint Tarmogoyf? Maybe.

I am Blue/Green


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