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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 12:03AM #11
BeatusNox
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Proliferate Mechanic makes lich a little more playable IMO.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 6:17AM #12
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Aug 28, 2010 -- 5:45PM, Razorgore wrote:

Aug 28, 2010 -- 4:46PM, NivMizzet_theFiremind wrote:

yeah at first I thought it doubled the counters

it's definately good though, in draft with all the wither/poison




It's that kind of baseless speculation that makes these threads pointless. Proliferate could be great of terrible, and it entirely depends on other factors, mainly casting cost and the power level of the cards it appears on.

For all you know, it could be allies 2.0.



A couple of Allies are REALLY good... not sure what you're trying to say here.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 7:40AM #13
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 12:03AM, BeatusNox wrote:

Proliferate Mechanic makes lich a little more playable IMO.



Huh? Why would you want 2 Phylactery counters on the same artifact?

Kinda senseless. He gets better if there's darksteel stuff, though.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 10:47AM #14
JaketheLate
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 7:40AM, Nidd. wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 12:03AM, BeatusNox wrote:

Proliferate Mechanic makes lich a little more playable IMO.



Huh? Why would you want 2 Phylactery counters on the same artifact?

Kinda senseless. He gets better if there's darksteel stuff, though.



This.

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

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I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 10:57AM #15
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 10:47AM, JaketheLate wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 7:40AM, Nidd. wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 12:03AM, BeatusNox wrote:

Proliferate Mechanic makes lich a little more playable IMO.



Huh? Why would you want 2 Phylactery counters on the same artifact?

Kinda senseless. He gets better if there's darksteel stuff, though.



This.




This and this.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 11:14AM #16
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I'm looking forward to actually being able to draft Scars on MODO cause I probably just went infinite... if you're actually interested in why, shoot me a PM. Awesome back-to-back P1P1/P2P1
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 11:28AM #17
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Archetypes that will die:
Jund- Pretty obvious, loses BBE, Thrinax, leech, terminate, blightning, pulse, and savage lands.
Mythic Consciption- Loses soverigns, hierarch, kotr, and elspeth.
Polymorph- Loses polymorph.

Archetypes that may survive with help:
RDW- Loses a lot but keeps a lot, depends what scars gives it.
PyroAscencion- Loses time warp, but keeps the core of the deck together. It would only take another time warp-esque card or something abusable to keep it playable.

Archetypes that stay in it:
Naya Utility-Fauna shaman and vengvine stay.
U/W Control-Loses almost nothing.
Valakut Ramp decks- Loses almost nothing.
Eldrazi Ramp decks- Loses almost nothing. 

On the fence stuff that might die or become better:
Vampires- Loses nocturnus which is huge, but loses nothing else. Has a chance at getting something good in scars.
WW- Soul Sisters is good, but loses soul warden and elspeth. With leonin returning a few solid creatures could push the archetype. Losses include Knight of the White Orchid, and the big one Path to Exile.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 6:46PM #18
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Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 11:28AM, GoTexans wrote:


Vampires- Loses nocturnus which is huge, but loses nothing else. Has a chance at getting something good in scars.
WW- Soul Sisters is good, but loses soul warden and elspeth. With leonin returning a few solid creatures could push the archetype. Losses include Knight of the White Orchid, and the big one Path to Exile.



They have confirmed that there will be more vampires in Scars, and Captivating Vampire will do fine. It's nothing compared to Nocturnus, but it's still a fine lord, though I wish it had a better second ability. The only way that ability could become viable is if there was some Vampire token gen in Scars.

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

Good times:
Spoiler: Show

but where DID the other fork come from?
Spoiler: Show

Lord_Zed:   
I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

The great land debate:
Spoiler: Show

Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 9:57PM #19
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 6:46PM, JaketheLate wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 11:28AM, GoTexans wrote:


Vampires- Loses nocturnus which is huge, but loses nothing else. Has a chance at getting something good in scars.
WW- Soul Sisters is good, but loses soul warden and elspeth. With leonin returning a few solid creatures could push the archetype. Losses include Knight of the White Orchid, and the big one Path to Exile.



They have confirmed that there will be more vampires in Scars, and Captivating Vampire will do fine. It's nothing compared to Nocturnus, but it's still a fine lord, though I wish it had a better second ability. The only way that ability could become viable is if there was some Vampire token gen in Scars.



or you just play out a bunch of vampires and steal VV's and other creatures in the creature v. creature matchups.  its ability is fine as is.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2010 - 10:15PM #20
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Aug 29, 2010 -- 9:57PM, Burning_Forest wrote:


or you just play out a bunch of vampires and steal VV's and other creatures in the creature v. creature matchups.  its ability is fine as is.




Agreed. It's a niche ability meant to give you an edge against the aggro matchup, not some sort of generic "this is always good" ability. Vamps already has decent matchups against control decks, so the "steal" ability is solid without being broken.


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