|
2 years ago ::
Apr 20, 2011 - 2:48AM
#341
|
|
|
Bootleg concept list post-NPH. Spoiler:
Show
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
Apr 25, 2011 - 4:12PM
#342
|
Date Joined:
Jun 27, 2009
|
I have been toying around with this deck for a couple of weeks and decided to post it to get some ideas of changes. Keep in mind it is right now pre-Niel Patrick Harris(aka new phyrexia)
2 Dread Statuary
13 Forest
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Tectonic Edge
3 Acidic Slime
1 Joraga Treespeaker
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Overgrown Battlement
3 Precursor Golem
2 Terastadon
2 steel Hellkite
1 Viridian Corruptor
3 Ancient Stirrings
3 Green sun's Zenith
2 Nature's Spiral
3 Ratchet Bomb
2 Summoning Trap
4 Tumble Magnet'
SideBoard:
3 autumn's viel
2 Creeping Corrosion
3 Obstinate Baloth
2 Pelakka Wurm
2 Summoning Trap
1 Viridian corruptor
2 (EMPTY SLOTS)
Theres my list I have played in abouth 2-3 tournanments and it has shown some potential. I started the deck as a way to play Ancient stirrings with all of the artifact utility acting as a kind of preordain. The steel Hellkites having been proving quite succesful. And terastadon is a beast, and will probably never be dropped from the deck as its probably my favorite card of all time. Nature's spiral is a great 2-of. It helps you get back ratchet bombs, gunned down precursor golems/steel hellkites, and tectonic edges. I also really enjoy the decks Zenith package evn though the artifact creatures cant jump into play with it.
As for my sideboard at the moment; The creeping corrosions are for the the mass amounts of infect decks running around as well as the tezzeret decks that people have started to play. The Obstinate Baloths and pelakka wurms are for red decks and for other aggresive strategies. the traps and the autumn viels out of the board are for blue decks since lets be honest counterspells scare me whenever i have ran this deck and after sideboard with all the flash freezes in peoples boards now a days.
Thats the deck with some card choice and explainations. I have a blast whenever i play this deck and would like to make it better while trying to stick to the basic startegy. Any help will be appreciated.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
Apr 28, 2011 - 7:52PM
#343
|
Date Joined:
Dec 30, 2010
|
Post-NPH deck. 4 Etched Monstrosity  4 Fauna Shaman  4 Joraga Treespeaker  3 Khalni Hydra  3 Leatherback Baloth  4 Llanowar Elves  3 Melira, Sylvok Outcast  3 Beast Within  2 Garruk Wildspeaker  4 Green Sun's Zenith  3 Overwhelming Stampede  19 Forests  4 Tectonic Edge  The godhand, if you will, is T1 Treespeaker, T2 level it and cast Melira, T3 cast a 10/10 Monstrosity, T4 Overwhelming Stampede for 43 trample damage. The Zeniths find most of what you need and the Fauna Shamans can find the Monstrosity. Still working on the sideboard, but it probably involves some number of Autumn's Veil, the 4th Beast Within and Torpor Orbs, because I expect those to shut down Caw-Blade completely. Thoughts?
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
Apr 30, 2011 - 9:09AM
#344
|
Date Joined:
Jan 12, 2010
|
Got a new list, unorthodox for this thread but nonetheless, it's green and mean. As follows: MG Infexus4 x *Inkmoth Nexus  2 x *Tectonic Edge  19 x *Forest  4 x *Ancient Stirrings  4 x *Expedition Map  4 x *Giant Growth  4 x *Groundswell  3 x *Mirran Mettle  4 x *Vines of Vastwood  4 x *Tumble Magnet  4 x *Contagion Clasp  4 x *Explore  Sideboard 4 x *Nature's Claim  4 x *Withstand Death  3 x *Hornet Sting  1 x *Pistus Strike  2 x *All is Dust  1 x *Contagion Engine  This deck has the potential to be nuts. Unfortunately I built it in like 10 minutes last night and did not remember to use Hornet Sting, Pistus Strike, or All is Dust in my 'board so my control matches didn't go very well. I did, however, blow out Boros twice and a Pyromancer Ascension deck; my losses were UG Control (Cobra, Bird, Trap, PWs, Titans=goodness) and my best frienemy, Caw-Blade. However, with Stings in the board I feel that all my matches would've been fairly simple wins. This deck basically folds to an excess of flyers and my forgotten removal solves this problem. This list'll go through a bit of a SB overhaul once NPH hits shelves, but I'm very confident that this style of deck will be winning games shortly.
It's my sig in a box! -RP Jesus Spoiler:
Show
I... need a filing cabinet. -Quagmire
I think I saw Emrakul in a cartoon with Japanese schoolgirls once. It didn't end well. -Qmark
Edit: Couldn't find a cookie, so here's an octopus. Enjoy. -Zigeif777
grandma pumps the threat she ramps.
If you believe in Jesus and love him and aren't afraid to admit it, put this in your sig.
Jun 30, 2010 -- 1:35AM, S1AL wrote:
Playing a bad deck in order to be original is like using crappy tools to build something. Not only does it look bad in the end, but nobody really thinks that you're cool for being unwilling to do things the way a professional would.
Look at the card. Now back to Jace. Now back to that card, now back to Jace! Sadly, it isn't Jace, but if it stopped being a junk rare and became relevant, it could act like it's Jace. Crack some Worldwake. What do you have? You have a Jace, the card you wish this card could be like. Look again. THE CARD IS NOW A $75 BILL. Anything possible when you play Magic with Jace and not junk rares.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 01, 2011 - 4:10PM
#345
|
Date Joined:
May 11, 2008
|
Ok, where to start. Haven't played in standard since shards came out, and I didnt really like that set very much so i stopped paying attention until a recent trip to my old card shop when I was back home. I have a vintage deck but even in vintage the only cards i ever really see from the new sets would be Jace. I have always loved green so now that I am trying my hand at standard again I am going to buiild this deck but I am a bit out of the loop to be honest.
Money isn't really an object (although I refuse to spend $90 on a freaking jace) so i am trying to figure out a good mix of power and answers, but i am looking for the best bang for my buck, so to speak. I can't make a decision on which deck to run, or maybe a mixture of the two, so I am asking for advice. I haven't quite had the time to look over NPH (if the full spoilers are even on the web yet) but I pretty much narrowed it down to two play styles
Elves, for controlled ramping and dropping big bombs, with most of my meta answers in the sideboard
or
Beasts, for continuous pressure with efficient beaters, and a healthy dose of mainboard answers, with a purely situational sideboard (kinda a sligh deck)
So my question is, if money is removed from the equation, which would be the better call in the current meta?
TL;DR? post some expensive but efficient decklists
P.S. apologies if I seem to contradict myself on the money part, I just don't see the sense in dropping $15 on a fetch land or $90 on one card that is going to cycle out sooner or later. I like all my my expensive cards to find their place in grapeshot elves, not standard.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 01, 2011 - 4:49PM
#346
|
Date Joined:
Jan 12, 2010
|
Well if you don't mind dropping the money on a set of Vengevines, they've become much more affordable in the past few months. Elves is the way to go for green, but with the s-load of control decks dominating the game right now bomb-dropping is a poor choice. Go straight for aggro. There's actually an Elves list in the NC National Qualifiers winners right now that looks pretty solid if you want to fiddle around with it. If not, the build above is cheap and very very solid. Swap out the Mirran Mettles for Primal Bellow  though. Much better use of the mana.
It's my sig in a box! -RP Jesus Spoiler:
Show
I... need a filing cabinet. -Quagmire
I think I saw Emrakul in a cartoon with Japanese schoolgirls once. It didn't end well. -Qmark
Edit: Couldn't find a cookie, so here's an octopus. Enjoy. -Zigeif777
grandma pumps the threat she ramps.
If you believe in Jesus and love him and aren't afraid to admit it, put this in your sig.
Jun 30, 2010 -- 1:35AM, S1AL wrote:
Playing a bad deck in order to be original is like using crappy tools to build something. Not only does it look bad in the end, but nobody really thinks that you're cool for being unwilling to do things the way a professional would.
Look at the card. Now back to Jace. Now back to that card, now back to Jace! Sadly, it isn't Jace, but if it stopped being a junk rare and became relevant, it could act like it's Jace. Crack some Worldwake. What do you have? You have a Jace, the card you wish this card could be like. Look again. THE CARD IS NOW A $75 BILL. Anything possible when you play Magic with Jace and not junk rares.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 01, 2011 - 5:43PM
#347
|
Date Joined:
May 11, 2008
|
I like the 2nd place entry for the NC national qualifiers, but I think I am missing something. Vengevine is an amazing card, and ezuri looks pretty solid, but this seems to be underpowered for such a high ranking deck. Maybe I am relying on tech instead of good old muscle, or there are a lot less sweepers around than there were in my good old days (onslaught block)
I would think a deck like that would benefit massively from Archdruid, but there are none. No warcallers, nothing with nissa, no garruk, no monument, seems almsot like a budget beatdown deck, except for the Vengevines. I am definately missing something. Help?
If I ran elves, depending on some actual exposure to the current meta, I would think it would be something like this:
20 forest
X4 Joraga Treespeaker
X4 Llanowar elves
X4 Copperhorn Scout
X4 Arbor Elf
X3 Elvish Archdruid
X3 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
X3 Mul Daya Channelers
X4 Vengevine/X4 Khalni Hydra
X2 Phyrexian Revoker
X3 Garruk Wildspeaker
X1 Nissa Revane
X3 Eldrazi monument
X3 Beast Within
Sideboard:
X1 Beast Within
X3 Acidic Slime
X2 Tajuru Preservers
X2 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
X3 Wolfbriar Elemental/Molten-Tail Masticore
X2 Thrun, The Last Troll
X2 Phyrexian Revoker
This is a quick ten minute list of course, the SB I kinda just shoved stuff in and It's a little heavy on mana dorks (dead draws as a topdeck) but this is kinda what I figured you might have meant.
EDIT: Nevermind my assumptions, I will stop being ignorant and figure this out. Thanks for the advice.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 08, 2011 - 3:08PM
#348
|
Date Joined:
Nov 11, 2010
|
Post-NPH deck.
4 Etched Monstrosity
4 Fauna Shaman
4 Joraga Treespeaker
3 Khalni Hydra
3 Leatherback Baloth
4 Llanowar Elves
3 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
3 Beast Within
2 Garruk Wildspeaker
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Overwhelming Stampede
19 Forests
4 Tectonic Edge
The godhand, if you will, is T1 Treespeaker, T2 level it and cast Melira, T3 cast a 10/10 Monstrosity, T4 Overwhelming Stampede for 43 trample damage. The Zeniths find most of what you need and the Fauna Shamans can find the Monstrosity.
Still working on the sideboard, but it probably involves some number of Autumn's Veil, the 4th Beast Within and Torpor Orbs, because I expect those to shut down Caw-Blade completely.
Thoughts?
Just a quick note, I dont think that Melira will work with the Monstrocity as you think it will. She says that the -1/-1 counters cant be placed on creatures you control, and the Etched guy comes into play with them on him, wording-wise they arent placed. Not 100% on this, but magic is very precise about its wording a lot of the time.
A quick note, im thinking Karn would be good for this deck. Yes he is expensive, but since when is that a problem for green :P Im thinking he is good, because he can basicly remove any problem that gets in the way. Him and beast within are deff worth a look I believe, because a vanilla 3/3 sitting in place of a mindsculptor, or a sword of feast and famine, is a pretty good trade for us.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 08, 2011 - 4:00PM
#349
|
Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2003
|
Melira prevents Monstrocity from getting counters when he comes into play. Melira stops all effects that put counters on, including static abilities possessed by the creature itself.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
|
|
|
|
2 years ago ::
May 08, 2011 - 6:00PM
#350
|
Date Joined:
Nov 11, 2010
|
Ah ok cool, thats good to know
|
|
|
